[kwlug-disc] Website hosting

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For that matter, check me on this ...

Webmail, in the end is talking POP or IMAP to a server - it's just a 
client, outputting to html. Nothing says that email server is on that 
web server? If so, it doesn't much matter where the email server is. Nor 
much matter where the e-mail client is. Your site, or a redirect to your 
e-mail provider's web equivalent.

(Frequently, web mail is an app - just like wordpress, or wikimedia. 
What web e-mail is your site using? Which is to say, doesn't mean 
another provider doesn't use the same web app.)

To Khalid's point, for all they know it's a google imap using a 
RoundCube client.

Remember, different services, and different servers. Web and E-mail are 
distinct. Host on different places, user transparent. e.g. RoundCube web 
e-mail client on your (or any other) site, sucking mail from another box 
entirely (somewhere else in the ether). [Just a server setting in your 
web client admin.]

And to Khalid's point, that e-mail could be some other popular provider 
dealing with all the fiddly bits.

Khalid - Google Apps stopped being free for anyone in the last year or 
so. Those who had accounts are grandfather in for free, life, but that's 
it. The U.S. has other non-profit free equivalents, but not Canada. AFAIK.

On 14-06-10 04:59 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:35 PM, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I just went through all the statements (luckily they were online) and
>> figured that I'm paying around $200US per site per year, so around $17US
>> per month per site.
>>
>
> So, Linode $20 would be a good idea financially only if you can put both
> sites on one Linode. That leaves the administration part.
>
> Did you look into Wordpress.com hosting? You don't need to deal with the
> Linux part of it at all.
>
> One other criteria that I need to consider is how easy it would be for any
>> one of my users to access their email at the charity site.  Right now I
>> haven't issued email addresses to the other organizers simply because the
>> getmail program on this site is not at all user friendly.  So any new host
>> (if I find one) would have to have webmail that older users could
>> understand.
>>
>
> The advice I can offer is that you do not offer email to anyone. It is way
> more headache than it is worth it, with all the spam, DMARC, SPF, ...etc.
> Some of their emails will not reach intended recipients, and they will
> complain to you and you cannot do much.
>
> Better farm out the email (e.g. to Google Apps, which has a free tier), or
> ask them to get free email from Google or someone. There are some who would
> not like that because Google is USian, NSA, ...etc. but remember that email
> has at least two parties: sender and receiver. And you can't control where
> the receiver is hosting, nor what they do with the email.
>
>
>
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