[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

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On 14-07-20 05:46 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
> On 2014-07-19 20:44, unsolicited wrote:
>> On 14-07-18 09:46 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
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>>> I am not convinced a monolithic kernel is the best solution
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> Regardless, most
> of the time there is still resource blocking (mot likely memory access
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QNX has become very, very, respected in the embedded world for 
excellence, particularly for true multi-tasking and for only loading the 
needed pieces of the 'kernel'. Never mind whether one agrees on the 
message passing architecture used, or that it's a proprietary ecosystem.

Blocks are, of course, blocks - if one is waiting for i/o or memory, may 
as well move on to the next waiting process that isn't. QNX apparently 
does true multi-tasking very very well / intelligently.

What I found notable when I looked a few years back, none of the current 
popular PDA OS' are true multi-tasking. Thus my comment that it will be 
interesting to see how much success RIM / QNX has.

>> Re: Desktops
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> However, I have always argued that this is not my use case.

Amen!

I bought a desktop, with a keyboard, for a reason! Don't neuter that 
functionality because you're trying to (inappropriately) apply the same 
solution across multiple devices, where they may have very small screens 
and no hardware keyboard. I use a hardware keyboard for a reason! I type 
- stop making me move my hands from the keyboard where I am speedily 
productive!

A desktop is a desktop, stop trying to ram the square peg into your new 
round hole!

What concerns me, though, is if all the development / dollars is going 
to mobile, will true desktops become more and more marginalized.

Still don't understand why ... can't think of the name ... had screens 
that folded over to be pads only when desired ... ran Windows Mobile 
(unfortunately, MS Journal comes to mind, cops used them), Toshiba 
Satellite's ... didn't become more popular than they did. Hardware 
costs, presumably. Perhaps those costs will be coming down now. Still 
implies well integrated physical keyboards and using up the entire 
screen - not just the center.

As for fork'ing, like I said - may suit your individual use case, but 
what will carry the day is whatever large enterprises deploy in large 
numbers. To date that still appears to be Windows (7) over Linux, a 
problem still not yet solved out there. Presumably due to Office and 
Exchange / Outlook - LibreOffice seems to make slow / marginal headway. 
While one might have thought more effort would have been put into 
Evolution / Zimbra / whatever, when its FLOSS there's no financial 
incentive to make the investment. Yet, I perceive Android and 
Canonical's greatest success is in awareness and putting more Linux 
devices in physical hands. But they are moving to mobile / keyboardless 
interfaces! ???

Leaving those using keyboards, particularly I.T. development people, 
behind. I guess with things like voice recognition / dictation, those 
needing keyboards become less and less the mass market, lower returns 
for the investment dollar, you dance with them what brung ya.