[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

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Yet, as you noted Debian chose it.

So, from a 10k level, I don't understand how to square the circles.

Many times there is an efficiency of coding and design from taking all 
of the moving part, evolving design elements, and refactoring it into a 
more 'linear' less-cruft, single system. Not saying as a behemoth it 
doesn't bring it's own baggage and different problems into the mix, 
merely the refactoring.

So, given Debian's choice ... the reverse is ultimately like true? 
systemd achieves/d the efficiencies above, but in time is likely to get 
broken down into component parts to reacquire the elements discussed 
below and currently lost?


On 14-08-19 08:18 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> More on systemd
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> http://www.infoworld.com/print/248436
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> While systemd has succeeded in its original goals, it's not stopping there.
> systemd is becoming the Svchost <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svchost> [5]
> of Linux -- which I don't think most Linux folks want. You see, systemd is
> growing, like wildfire, well outside the bounds of enhancing the Linux boot
> experience. systemd wants to control most, if not all, of the fundamental
> functional aspects of a Linux system -- from authentication to mounting
> shares to network configuration to syslog to cron
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w426-h284/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif>
> [6]. It wants to do so as essentially a monolithic entity that obscures
> what's happening behind the scenes.
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> But there are also 45 years of history behind Unix and extremely good
> reasons it's still flourishing. Tools designed like systemd do not fit the
> Linux mold, to their own detriment. Systemd's design has more in common
> with Windows than with Unix -- down to the binary logging.
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> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
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>> Yet another article on systemd from someone who has been around for a
>> while, and does not like the all-in-one concept that it forces on people ...
>>
>> I agree with the gist of it, not the rant-ish tone though ...
>>
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/12/459
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