[kwlug-disc] UPnP 'dropbox'/ftp download / sync equivalent?

unsolicited unsolicited at swiz.ca
Tue May 7 20:50:27 EDT 2013


Disable IPblock, devices start showing up. Voila.


On 13-05-07 08:43 PM, unsolicited wrote:
> On 13-05-07 02:35 PM, Adam Glauser wrote:
>> When I say "mount the camera", I mean "use djmount's filesystem driver to
>> make it appear as if you mounted the camera", so as far as I can tell
>> you're doing what you should be with djmount.
> Thanks. Had to check. cd /mnt/place/device/...
>> I've been primarily interested in media servers lately, so I forgot that
>> UPnP sometimes means something else.
> Yep, we just dated ourselves. I used it deliberately in the OP - we are
> thinking of the same thing.
> Pretty soon it will all be DLNA, but as I understand it the world hasn't
> entirely gotten that far, yet. (But they're trying.)
>> Maybe the camera is using something
>> other than UPnP AV, which is a subset of the uPnP standard. djmount seems
>> to only work with UPnP AV servers.
> In this case, I only became (re)aware of UPnP because the camera was
> showing up in Windows networking and media centre as a net device, and
> vlc / playlist / Local Network / Universal Plug'n'Play started listing
> them.
> The cam won't accept a smb / ftp connection, but will put out to them.
> Then I noticed it presents its files UPnP wise. Thus my search.
>> I tried to get details from DLink's site using the link to the camera
>> info
>> from your first message, but it doesn't go in to detail about which parts
>> of the UPnP protocol are supported. It does suggest that the camera can
>> send video clips to an FTP server. Maybe that is a way to accomplish your
>> goal?
> File sizes are apparently sent smaller FTP than SMB. It will not send
> files to two places at once - e.g. local SD card and SMB. (It will send,
> with the right incantation, two different files - i.e. one of live
> footage / motion detection clip / movement log, in each of 2 directions
> - but you get into priorities and conflicts - if it's sending live
> footage one way, to send the clip the other would mean to interrupt the
> live footage ...
> It's a wee little beastie and can only do one such thing at a time.
> Going to SD card, being local, will be the most pristine (fps wise).
> Since it can't push, I was hoping to pull.
>> You may also be able to get more information by using a network traffic
>> analyser to see what sort of data the camera is sending back when you
>> browse it using whatever other UPnP client you have had luck with.
> Yep, thought of that. I may be able to wireshark or tcpdump it, but I'll
> have zero idea what to do with or about it.
> By everything I have seen, it should 'just work'. I must be missing
> something that with 20:20 hindsight will be stupidly obvious. No SSDP
> running, something blocking, something ...
> Thanks for anything that occurs to you.
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