[kwlug-disc] kwlug-disc Digest, Vol 27, Issue 50

David Christensen davidchristensen42 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 18:02:03 EST 2011


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> From: Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Palm replacement? Android pad?
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> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 17:59, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you can make do with something the same size of a Pam, then a used
> > unlocked Android phone should do the job.
> >
> > You can get them used off Kijiji. For example, a 4" Sony Ericsson Xperia
> > X10
> > is $275 or thereabouts. Some cost more ($400-500), others can be $150 to
> > $200. I got the oldish G1 for a friend for just $125. It is not the most
> > responsive
> > device though.
> >
>
> Coincidently came across my feeds today:
>
> "Samsung was showing off two new WiFi-only Android devices based on the
> popular Galaxy S smartphone."
>
> "not divulging pricing information at this time, though apparently
> representatives suggested it would be "extremely competitive with the iPod
> touch.""
>
> Considering the iPod Touch runs about $250, this might be a feasible option
> -- when it actually arrives.
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/02/samsung-aims-for-ipod-touch-with-wifi-only-galaxy-s-variants.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
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> I've actually got an Android Tablet in the form of a Barnes & Noble "Nook
> Color". They run about $250 in the US. It is probably not the target device
> for the average user since to actually use it as a "real" android tablet it
> must be either rooted or flashed. I actually just stock Android on mine
> right from SD (Easier to backup and upgrade).
>
> So far I've found using Android, even a community supported build, to be
> much better than my Nokia n810. Still not as seamless as my old Palm Vx
> (It's been ten years! seriously!), but it also does considerably more:
> Email, Browsing, Movie theatre show times, Angry Birds....
>
> That said, I still think Palm "has" it in the software space, though
> different from the old PalmOS way. I wouldn't ditch my Pre for an android
> phone, but I did find the screen just a little too small to try and
> organize
> my calendar, etc. Their tablet might be worth a look, but I don't know when
> or how much...
>
> http://www.palm.com/us/products/pads/touchpad/index.html
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> Chris Irwin
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I still have some 8 inch Android 2.2 Tabs    davidchristensen42 at gmail.com

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> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:07:46 -0500
> From: <unsolicited at swiz.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Palm replacement? Android pad?
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> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:46:43 -0500, Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > So far I've found using Android, even a community supported build, to be
> > much better than my Nokia n810. Still not as seamless as my old Palm Vx
> > (It's been ten years! seriously!), but it also does considerably more:
> > Email, Browsing, Movie theatre show times, Angry Birds....
> >
> > That said, I still think Palm "has" it in the software space, though
> > different from the old PalmOS way. I wouldn't ditch my Pre for an
> android
> > phone, but I did find the screen just a little too small to try and
> > organize
> > my calendar, etc. Their tablet might be worth a look, but I don't know
> when
> > or how much...
> >
> > http://www.palm.com/us/products/pads/touchpad/index.html
>
> Palm 'had' it, you mean?
>
> Never made the transition to WebOS - nothing I've seen makes me want to.
> Not when it's incompatible with everything prior written for the Palms
> (without going into the goofiness of simulators or such).
>
> It seems to me WebOS moved the data to the cloud. My data is my data - it
> has no business being anywhere other than on my PDA, and backed up to the
> PC, with PC equivalent apps. It certainly doesn't belong on (in?) the
> cloud.
>
> Not speaking from experience here, merely my understanding of the
> situation and a significant reason as to why I haven't moved on.
>
> So, would you give up your Vx for your Pre?
>
>
> As for Android, Khalid has said they are getting better in this area.
>
> I just wish they would downsize from the PC, e.g. Evolution / Korganizer /
> PALM DESKTOP!, where the richness of content, functionality, and
> interoperability, exists, even if only to a different, 100% compatible, PDA
> app, rather than try to upsize web apps that were limited by the state of
> HTML at the time of their creation. We seem to be going backwards.
>
> The closest thing I've seen these days is Pimlical, and even then it's not
> quire 'real', yet, as far as I know - http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/. As
> far as I know, it too uses Google, but surrounds everything with additional
> code/apis to add in the necessary data structures and code to approximate
> the richness of the functionality of the old apps.
>
>    The loss of sync'ing, such as it was, from KDE 3 to 4, is
> disheartening. Supposedly being worked on, but 'not here now'. And if
> you're using the pim, 'not here now' is just not acceptable. So, I'm in the
> 'hurry up and wait', stage.
>
> A friend just dropped her Palm - it died. Treo 680's (last pre-WebOS
> smartphone, never going back to 2 devices) seem to be getting scarcer.
> PANIC!
>
>
> John - if Mary is like many, heart palpitations at the thought of a day
> without her PDA, you may want to pick up an old Palm in the mean time. And
> if not, heart palpitations that is, perhaps begin work on traversing the
> Android learning curve sooner rather than later - the Palm, she gonna die
> sooner or later, and when it does, your life won't be pleasant. (Why is it
> OUR fault that THEIR Palm died and they don't make them any more ...)
>
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> I still have 8 inch Android 2.2 Tablets   davidchristensen42 at gmail.com
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