[kwlug-disc] UBB Discussion, look at Cogeco

R. Brent Clements rbclemen at gmail.com
Wed Feb 2 01:08:53 EST 2011


Does someone with even a bit of apparent credibility want to fill out
the contact form on Cogent's website to be able to ask a sales rep
what a 1Gbps connection will cost?

Brent

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Eric Gerlach <eric+kwlug at gerlach.ca> wrote:
> The University has a 1Gbps connection to the inter-University ORION
> network, and a 1Gbps connection to Cogent.  However, we already employ
> a lot of shaping techniques and are having trouble keeping up with the
> demand that the students already place on the network.  I don't think
> IST would be interested in selling part of it ;-)
>
> https://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/~twiki/bin/view/ISTNS/ExternalNetwork
>
> You can get fibre from many people other than Bell, it's just copper
> that Bell has a monopoly on.  I might be able to find out how much
> 1Gbps fibre costs per month, though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:32 PM, R. Brent Clements <rbclemen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We do have the University of Waterloo to connect to.  Their internet
>> connection predates Bell's control.  Have they at some point sold out
>> and given control of that away?
>>
>> I am sure the University would love a new revenue stream.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, L.D. Paniak
>> <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>>> Bender, is that you?
>>>
>>> You can cover a lot of ground with directed 80211a point-to-point links
>>> eg:
>>>
>>> http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=107
>>>
>>> http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/popup_add_image.php?imagesID=85&osCsid=206f1915f49fa0097ecf85245a97278c&products_id=107'
>>>
>>> One could make the hardware rather maintenance-free/ redundant, but the
>>> whole system would cost money. I'd envision a non-profit organization
>>> over-seeing the show.
>>>
>>> The real trick is to get a proper internet portal to direct all the
>>> traffic through.  Retail is not going to do.  I would include Atria(aka
>>> Rogers) in that category. One needs to completely circumvent the
>>> gibberish of the CRTC and talk to wholesale vendors.
>>>
>>> Think Bell will let us coloc a wireless "a" bridge at one of their COs?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 12:08 -0500, Colin Mackay wrote:
>>>> Modified Futurama quote:  (Sorry.)
>>>>
>>>> "Oh, no room for us on the internet, huh? Fine! I'll go build my own
>>>> internet, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the internet and
>>>> the blackjack! Ahh, screw the whole thing!"
>>>>
>>>> I've often wondered what it would be like to get a large area mesh
>>>> network setup, the only issue I see is trusting everyone; who would
>>>> own the final connection to the net?  What if it goes down and the
>>>> person is on vacation; we can't get in to fix it?  How do we connect
>>>> those that are a little farther away?   Do we need multiple entry
>>>> points?
>>>>
>>>> It could end up costing quite a bit, in the long run...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Adam Glauser <adamglauser at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>         On 2/1/2011 11:34 AM, L.D. Paniak wrote:
>>>>                 You wants to build a mesh network on the west side of
>>>>                 Kitchener?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Is there an ISP that will offer a service that is allowed to
>>>>         be shared in this way?  Atria maybe?
>>>>
>>>>         Let's assume that one of us had a fibre connection available,
>>>>         and that the service agreement allowed sharing.  What does
>>>>         Atria change per GB for usage?  I wonder what sort of usage
>>>>         terms would be required for equitable cost distribution in
>>>>         such a scheme.
>>>>
>>>>
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