[kwlug-disc] UBB Discussion, look at Cogeco

[Eric Gerlach]

The University has a 1Gbps connection to the inter-University ORION
network, and a 1Gbps connection to Cogent.  However, we already employ
a lot of shaping techniques and are having trouble keeping up with the
demand that the students already place on the network.  I don't think
IST would be interested in selling part of it ;-)

https://strobe.uwaterloo.ca/~twiki/bin/view/ISTNS/ExternalNetwork

You can get fibre from many people other than Bell, it's just copper
that Bell has a monopoly on.  I might be able to find out how much
1Gbps fibre costs per month, though.

Cheers,

Eric

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:32 PM, R. Brent Clements <rbclemen at gmail.com> wrote:
> We do have the University of Waterloo to connect to.  Their internet
> connection predates Bell's control.  Have they at some point sold out
> and given control of that away?
>
> I am sure the University would love a new revenue stream.
>
> Brent
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, L.D. Paniak
> <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>> Bender, is that you?
>>
>> You can cover a lot of ground with directed 80211a point-to-point links
>> eg:
>>
>> http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/product_info.php?products_id=107
>>
>> http://www.beezwaxproducts.com/popup_add_image.php?imagesID=85&osCsid=206f1915f49fa0097ecf85245a97278c&products_id=107'
>>
>> One could make the hardware rather maintenance-free/ redundant, but the
>> whole system would cost money. I'd envision a non-profit organization
>> over-seeing the show.
>>
>> The real trick is to get a proper internet portal to direct all the
>> traffic through.  Retail is not going to do.  I would include Atria(aka
>> Rogers) in that category. One needs to completely circumvent the
>> gibberish of the CRTC and talk to wholesale vendors.
>>
>> Think Bell will let us coloc a wireless "a" bridge at one of their COs?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 12:08 -0500, Colin Mackay wrote:
>>> Modified Futurama quote:  (Sorry.)
>>>
>>> "Oh, no room for us on the internet, huh? Fine! I'll go build my own
>>> internet, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the internet and
>>> the blackjack! Ahh, screw the whole thing!"
>>>
>>> I've often wondered what it would be like to get a large area mesh
>>> network setup, the only issue I see is trusting everyone; who would
>>> own the final connection to the net?  What if it goes down and the
>>> person is on vacation; we can't get in to fix it?  How do we connect
>>> those that are a little farther away?   Do we need multiple entry
>>> points?
>>>
>>> It could end up costing quite a bit, in the long run...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Adam Glauser <adamglauser at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>         On 2/1/2011 11:34 AM, L.D. Paniak wrote:
>>>                 You wants to build a mesh network on the west side of
>>>                 Kitchener?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Is there an ISP that will offer a service that is allowed to
>>>         be shared in this way?  Atria maybe?
>>>
>>>         Let's assume that one of us had a fibre connection available,
>>>         and that the service agreement allowed sharing.  What does
>>>         Atria change per GB for usage?  I wonder what sort of usage
>>>         terms would be required for equitable cost distribution in
>>>         such a scheme.
>>>
>>>
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