[kwlug-disc] UBB hold the phone

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Tue Feb 1 15:05:22 EST 2011

Even if it's true that the ISPs don't have to charge based on usage, 
Teksavvy and any of the other DSL providers are still required to stay 
within the CRTC tariffs (which were established in January, so don't 
quote to me the tariff decision from 2010).

The CRTC documents are difficult to understand.  If Teksavvy does come 
up with a different pricing structure they'll be shat on by Bell, who 
will trump up some way to show they're violating the CRTC tariff 
decision.  There's enough turmoil for the ISPs right now - they've had 
to change their entire billing system to accommodate the UBB charges. 
Far better that they conform precisely to the CRTC tariffs than risk 
further expense in fighting Bell beligerence and CRTC regulations.


On 11-02-01 02:34 PM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> If they really were charging "exorbitant markups," some clever sod
> could come along and charge slightly less exorbitant markups and run
> away with the market share. That's how competitive markets work.
> Coincidentally, Yak and Eyesurf are going to be growing their market
> share quite a bit locally because they're unaffected by the UBB
> ruling.
> Darcy.
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Insurance Squared Inc.
> <gcooke at insurancesquared.com>  wrote:
>> Someone that I respect (because they're about 18 times smarter than I am and
>> more knowledgeable) said this in response to UBB:
>> Aren't required to charge based on usage. They most certainly will because
>> that's how their wholesaler is charging them, but it's not required.
>> In other words, teksavvy doesn't HAVE to charge these additional fees.  They
>> can, or not.  In other words, they can actually continue to give me
>> unlimited bandwidth as before.  But they won't.  If this is the case, the
>> problem lies not with the government but with teksavvy - and the rest of
>> them.  it's no longer Bell that's gouging me, it's teksavvy by exhorbitant
>> markups.
>> g.
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