[kwlug-disc] [To keep Bob delirious.] Was, & still could be: Re: New geek in the area

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Fri Sep 10 01:03:06 EDT 2010


It's not true bonding, so you're right that any one connection would max 
out at 5 Mbps.  But even the lowly Web browser sustains at least four 
simultaneous connections.  Try downloading a page with many large 
graphics; you'll see them render in groups of four.  So a single browser 
can aggregate to 20 Mbps, even with just one person at the keyboard.  It 
works even better for Bittorrent, for which there can be hundreds of 
connections to transfer a single file.

--Bob.

On 10-09-09 11:56 PM, unsolicited wrote:
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> Bob Jonkman wrote, On 09/09/2010 7:33 PM:
>> Four whoas.  Whoa!  Actually, your average Linksys router can
>> probably support four DLS connections bonded together with MLPPP
>> before it pooches out.  And I use "bonded" only in the loosest sense
>> -- it's not true bonding, but "bonding" is a convenient word for
>> those of us with only a one-propeller beanie.
>>
>> You purchase (rent?) four DSL lines (either on a regular POTS phone
>> line or on a dry loop) for $31.95 x 4, add the MLPPP charge of $4.00
>> x 4, four DLS modems (Acme Telephone in Kitchener has a good price
>> for a Speedtouch 516: $44.95 x 4 at http://speedtouch.ca/ ) and
>> connect them all with a Linksys router running Tomato/MLPPP from
>> http://fixppp.org .  Now you have up to 20Mbps download / 2.5Mbps
>
> You sure about 20Mbps / 2.5 Mbps?
>
> I would have thought any 1 stream would get a max. of 5Mbps, but you
> could have 4 going at the same time. i.e. I would not have thought the
> lines would actually be aggregated - each tcp/ip session having its
> own source & destination ips.
>
> No?
>
> Now, unless you are doing some more than serious uploads/downloads,
> this probably wouldn't matter. e.g. I expect the largest average http
> get to be only a few hundred K, at most. (Average.) And without
> aggregation no one person could suck the life out of everyone else -
> which is undoubtedly a good thing. So Glenn's kids AND Mom could be
> sucking down video, and with a 4 line setup, Glenn himself would still
> get a kick at the pot. (Otherwise, one download would still suck the
> life out of everyone else, just for a shorter time!) (-:
>
>> upload  with an 800 Gbyte/month cap.  Or if you pay $39.95 x 4 for
>> Teksavvy's Unlimited service there's no cap.  And you get a static IP
>> with every MLPPP line.
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