[kwlug-disc] Good android phones [was: MS Phone]
ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
Wed Oct 13 17:59:04 EDT 2010
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:42 -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Johnny Ferguson
> <hyperflexed at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/2010 10:05 AM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Insurance Squared
> <gcooke at insurancesquared.com
> <mailto:gcooke at insurancesquared.com>> wrote:
> Microsoft launches phones. Actually looks
> interesting, not that
> I'll be getting one personally :). Looks like
> they've got an app
> development kit, for all you programmers.
> Not much in the way of details in the video, but I
> expect everything
> will be closed source.
> This is not their "phone". It says Samsung on the
> handset. This is version 7
> of their Windows Mobile (previously known as WinCE).
> They had an initiative to have their own Microsoft
> branded phone, called
> Kin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Kin but
> they discontinued it.
> because Google discontinued directly selling their
> Nexus One? I don't know.
> As for Windows for Mobile phones, the phone I used
> until over a month ago
> was made by HTC, and had Windows Mobile 5. I liked the
> hardware, but
> hated everything about the operating system.
> EVERYTHING! It was desktop
> centric still, hard to navigate, many options
> missing, ...etc.
> Everything they said in the video is available already
> in Android (and I
> Apple too). The only exception (at least for Android)
> is the "all your
> activity in one place", so as to not go in and out of
> apps all the time.
> Someone will write an app that does that I am sure.
> HD Video? Already have it! Easy navigation? Check!
> AMOLED screen? HTC
> Desire and Nexus One have it, and a bunch of others.
> Apple and Microsoft can keep their monopolies. I like
> Android, and not just
> because it is Linux underneath. It is functional,
> open, extensible and has a
> large app base.
> What's a good droid phone in Canada? Essentially my definition
> of good is the ability to control the software that runs on my
> Really depends on whether you want to go the rooted phone route, or
> stick with the stock O.S.
> I have not tried rooting myself, since any time I read about it, there
> is partial
> support for this piece, or that part does not work. Mainly drivers. I
> want the
> full functionality (magnetic compass, accelerometers, GPS, WiFI, GSM,
> ...etc.), not partial functionality. I installed ConnectBot and that
> gives me
> a shell. I can do ls, ps, top, ...etc. This is not root though. Also I
> ASTRO, and it allows me to install non Market apps. So if I am
> to do so, I can download the Android SDK, Eclipse and I can write apps
> for the phone, without having it rooted. The only thing you can't
> is the operating system itself, but you can do whatever on the app
> I heard others on this list have rooted Android phones, so please
> share your
> experiences with this.
> Apart from rooting, look for a phone that has the Android Market
> enabled. Do
> not get a phone that has no market since it would be quite useless.
> carriers do lock the market out for some retarded business reason.
> Also get Android 2.1 or higher. I heard 2.2 has a just in time
> compiler and
> therefore potentially faster code execution.
> Depending on who your carrier is, an unlocked GSM phone gives you
> certain freedoms, such as switching to another provider, or using a
> card abroad if you travel, specially outside of North America.
> If you are looking for a phone with a physical keyboard, then don't
> the Motorola Milestone (a.k.a. Droid in CDMA networks), which I own.
> The reason is that the keyboard is almost unusable. It works fine as
> touch phone, and is feature rich otherwise.
> One thing that I considered was to go on Kijiji and find a used phone.
> Some are like $200 to $250 or so, even with a semi recent Android
> Be sure to investigate that route before you pay $400 or so for
> Droid, or $500 for an HTC Desire (the same as Google Nexus One).
> LG EVE (has keyboard)
> Acer Liquid E (decent specs, but heard they heat up)
> Go wild ...
I picked up a Samsung Galaxy S a couple of weeks ago. It is a wonderful
device with a big, bright AMOLED touchscreen and plenty of features and
performance with Android 2.1. I have not rooted it or felt the need to
upgrade to 2.2.
The only downside is that the phone is only available in retail through
Bell. I just got off the phone canceling my contract with them for
several reasons which I will save for another thread.
Bottom line is if you are going to get the Galaxy S (or any other phone)
and might have to call customer service one day, don't sign up with
Bell. Buy the phone unlocked (or outright from Bell - the unlock tool
is freely available in the Android Market) and sign up with a different
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