[kwlug-disc] Fwd: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99

Insurance Squared Inc. gcooke at insurancesquared.com
Fri May 21 14:30:53 EDT 2010


A one gigabit router doesn't in the end provide anything useful that a 
10/100 does, right?

I mean, even if you have gigabit cards - and that's not for sure.  And 
then your wiring is gigabitready, and that's also doubtful. Then you've 
still got the internet capped at about what, .005 gigabits :).

I'm using a commercial grade router at my house with decent wiring and I 
bet I still don't get 10mbits even internally.

Others out there getting speeds approaching a gigabit?  For what purpose?

g.


On 21/05/10 02:07 PM, unsolicited wrote:
> Either this is the one Khalid has been talking about since his first 
> message, or I'm missing something.
>
> My Netgear WNDR3700 arrived yesterday.
>
> (List) References: 
> http://astoria.ccjclearline.com/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/2010-May/004748.html 
>
> [including openwrt / ddwrt]
>
>
> Richard Weait wrote, On 05/21/2010 12:39 PM:
>> Here's one for ya', unsolicited.
>>
>> ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DIR-825/DIR-825_ds.pdf
>>
>> Dual band N 5GHz and 2.4 GHz
>> 4+ 1 gigabit ports
>> 1 USB port
>>
>> 64M ram
>>
>> Be sure to get the "B1" revision.  This is apparently marked on the box.
>>
>> Reports in the wild of loading OpenWRT on this router.  The official
>> hardware list has not been updated to reflect this.
>> http://fetzig.org/2009/12/24/openwrt-on-the-d-link-dir-825/
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh at mimosa.com>
>> Date: Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:18 AM
>> Subject: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99
>> To: tlug at ss.org
>>
>>
>> Lennart has recommended this router.  It is certainly not the
>> cheapest, but there is a one-day sale on it at Infonec:
>> <http://www.infonec.ca/site/main.php?module=detail&id=437209>
>>
>> This appears to be about 10% less than the best other local price.
>>
>> I've enclosed one of Lennart's postings on this router.
>>
>> Before that, here's a bit from a later discussion.  64M in an
>> off-the-shelf wireless router seems remarkable.  Invaluable if you 
>> intend
>> to build custom firmware with an abnormal amount of software.
>>
>> | Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:25:06 -0500
>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>> | Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Announcing OpenWrt/MLPPP - multilink firmware for
>> |     consumer routers - Caneris & Acanac
>> |
>> | On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:53:03PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>> | > | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>> | >
>> | > | Actually some DIR-825 rev B seem to have 64MB according to the 
>> dd-wrt
>> | > | developers.  Some have 32MB.  No one seems to know why this is.
>> | >
>> | > Nice!  It would be nice to know if you could some how tell before 
>> you
>> | > buy.
>> |
>> | None that I know of.  It seems dlink considers them equivelant and 
>> it's
>> | just a build variation.  Not sure if they need a different FCC id if
>> | they change the ram like that, so perhaps there is a difference.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>
>> | Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:03 -0400
>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>> | Reply-To: tlug at ss.org
>> | To: tlug at ss.org
>> | Subject: [TLUG]: New wireless router
>> |
>> | So two days ago, my WL-500gP suddenly decided to stop doing its job,
>> | and after pwoer cycling it it no longer booted.
>> |
>> | Reflashing it seemed to get it booting again, but not for long, and I
>> | then discovered the WAN port had turned into a LAN port on the switch,
>> | which meant the switch chip was no longer being configuring correctly.
>> |
>> | So time for a new router.  After looking what was available at local
>> | stores and researching them, I found out simultanious dual band 
>> routers
>> | with 802.11n are actually getting affordable now, and some of them are
>> | being worked on and will probably be supported by openwrt and the like
>> | pretty soon.
>> |
>> | So I bought a D-Link DIR-825 rev B1 with 2.02NA firmware (all nicely
>> | labeled on the outside of the box.  Linksys could learn something 
>> here).
>> | Very specificly NOT a rev A1 (which is apparently a piece of junk, 
>> with
>> | totally different hardware and software inside).  The rev A uses an 
>> ubicom
>> | CPU (300MHz proprietary RISC chip), while the rev B uses a 680MHz 
>> atheros
>> | 7161 MIPS 24k CPU.  The rev B runs linux (the A does not apparently).
>> | So with a 680MHz CPU and 64MB ram it is quite decent performance.
>> | So far I am impressed.  The signal strength for the various wifi 
>> enabled
>> | machines in the house is much improved over the old router too.
>> |
>> | I really like the guest wifi feature.  I now have it running as:
>> |
>> | wifi5 - WPA2/AES 5GHz 802.11 a/n
>> |
>> | wifi24 - WPA2/AES 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n
>> |
>> | wifi24ds - WEP 128bit 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g guest (firewalled from the
>> | other wifi and hence internet only access).  I run my Nintendo DS lite
>> | on this now.  I never had it able to connect to the internet before
>> | because it doesn't do WPA.
>> |
>> | The only issues with the default settings are a couple of misfeatures.
>> | The QoS support by default tries to measure the upstream bandwidth to
>> | decide how to configure the QoS support.  This takes a while, isn't 
>> that
>> | accurate and slows down boot time by a noticeable amount.  I turned
>> | that off and set my 1Mbit upstream speed manually.  Boot time is now
>> | much better and nicer.  The second misfeature, is a capcha at the 
>> login
>> | screen in addition to the password.  That is totally stupid, not even
>> | a well done capcha, and I turned that off too.  Everything else is 
>> great.
>> | Well the blue LEDs for the ports and power and such are awfully 
>> bright.
>> | I made mine face the wall for now. Apparently blue means working and
>> | amber means not yet working on this thing rather than red/green.
>> |
>> | So I would certainly recommend the DIR0825 rev B for anyone that wants
>> | the everything in one and at the same time wifi router.  Once openwrt
>> | and such hopefully one day runs on it, it will just get better.
>> |
>> | I also like the fact that the first thing you see when you open up the
>> | box, is a printed copy of the GPL along with an offer of getting a 
>> disc
>> | with the GPL parts of the code by writing them or sending an email.
>> | You can also download it from the website ofcourse.  The CD with the
>> | windows software also has a note on the back for Mac and Linux (both
>> | listed explicitly) users telling them where on the CD to find the
>> | documentation files.
>> |
>> | --
>> | Len Sorensen
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