[kwlug-disc] DuckDuckGo.com -- an alternate search engine

Johnny Ferguson hyperflexed at gmail.com
Tue Jul 27 21:07:27 EDT 2010


On 07/27/2010 12:32 PM, Ralph Janke wrote:
> I am not sure what the resistance against javascript in general is.
>
> javascript allows to let certain parts of the code being executed in the
> client instead of the server. This allows a smoother user experience
> (i.e. not every user interaction requires a new page being rendered). Do
> you need this for every application - no. However, it can increase the
> usability, to allow i.e. auto-completion of your input.
>

I agree that javascript can be used tastefully, but some sites go 
overboard (i.e. I can't see any of the content till enabling js from 20 
different domains, or forms that don't submit, then wipe themselves 
clean when I enable JS).

They should add a "rationale" parameter to link tags so you can get an 
explanation as to why the js is needed.

I think most JS on the web is sheer wankery. If we need to be able to 
refresh content on a page without refresh, it would be something to 
think of for future standards. The javascript is just waiting for a 
state change, and after a given timeout it queries a script and displays 
the results. I'm sure that's a generic enough feature to include in 
standards... I'm just wary of unilaterally allowing all JS on a page to 
run. It slows down the browsing experience as well, which is frustrating 
when the js is purely cosmetic.

But then you can't stop people from wanting to push the limits of what 
is capable, so I refer to my idea for a "rationale='explanation'" idea.

-Johnny

>
> On 07/26/2010 11:38 PM, Chris Frey wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:06:39PM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>> http://duckduckgo.com/
>> I tried searching using the front page... and was dismayed to find that
>> it requires Javascript.
>>
>> A search engine should never require Javascript. It's not that hard a
>> job.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>>
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