[kwlug-disc] OpenWRT / 802.11n / USB / SD / GB - MAC filtering wi-fi side specific?

Khalid Baheyeldin kb at 2bits.com
Fri Jan 15 17:22:30 EST 2010


Interesting for hack value.

But would take more space and consume more power than off the shelf
consumer embedded routers. Some of those have the hackability factor
too with OpenWRT, and that is what we are looking for for a home/small
office appliance.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Lori Paniak
<ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com>wrote:

> Instead of looking for proper hardware, why don't you build it yourself:
>
> Take an old PC (lots of USB, SATA, video...) and put a low power CPU in
> it.  Load the PCI(E) slots or USB up with your favourite Wifi radios and
> install the x86 version of OpenWRT for a mondo appliance.  You could
> have a 7 radio CRTC magnet. Poor neighbors.
>
> The Atom systems from Intel give low power (<35W) platforms you can
> craft with your choice of x86 distro.
>
> Debian Live is a good way to build an appliance with all the goodness of
> the deb way.  Burn your image onto a USB stick et voila!
>
> Does that sound too much like a talk proposal?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 16:23 -0500, unsolicited wrote:
> > Yep.
> >
> > You want the functionality, you want the capability, you want the
> > commercial quality (5km outside range), you're not going to get
> > factory direct prices.
> >
> > The public retail market will never deliver this. You will never buy
> > all of this from Best Buy.
> >
> > $200 to make the problem go away is peanuts. If we're lucky, that's
> > $200 CDN.
> >
> > Slap a waterproof cover on this, and you've got building to building.
> >
> > Not that I care about the commercial possibilities of this (but I'd
> > gladly help people out to do so) - I just want the issue put to bed.
> >
> > What's our time worth to keep waiting and searching and looking and ...
> >
> > Khalid Baheyeldin wrote, On 01/15/2010 4:11 PM:
> > > One more thing about the Ubiquity (from reading the thread): it is kind
> > > of "bare".
> > > You need to buy a wireless card, a cover, ...etc. This makes it closer
> > > to $200,
> > > rather than the under $100 all in one routers.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:44 PM, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca
> > > <mailto:unsolicited at swiz.ca>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Agreed. I'm in.
> > >
> > >     I believe the Ubiquity RouterStation Pro
> > >     (http://www.ubnt.com/products/rspro.php) is the box, given its
> > >     flexibility, but it's not local. So what. I'm guessing Cedric
> bought
> > >     http://www.ubnt.com/airview/, given his presentation, so he
> already
> > >     understands the lines of supply to Ubiquity.
> > >
> > >     It's their product line that confuses me, and that this is a bare
> > >     board with multiple mini-pci slots. But I expect sufficient
> > >     expertise is around to grok this. And put a cover on it.
> > >
> > >     It wouldn't surprise me if we could sell this (via Cedric / John?).
> > >     As you say Bob, it's a matter of local expertise, and having the
> > >     product in hand. Any SMB/SOHO could use one, we could all use one.
> > >     Especially if it relayed current wi-fi. i.e. Facilities could use
> it
> > >     to provide wi-fi internet access to the public while keeping their
> > >     own internal networks secure - with one (black) box.
> > >
> > >     Why? Because it's nails the current need to the floor for a good
> > >     long while - fire and forget. We're all tired of waiting for the
> > >     latest hardware to solve this problem and be done with it. It's
> > >     taken way, way, to much eye space and time.
> > >
> > >     Anyone else interested?
> > >
> > >     Robert P. J. Day wrote, On 01/15/2010 10:21 AM:
> > >
> > >         On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> > >
> > >                    every so often, i look around to see if there's a
> new,
> > >                  openwrt-ideal
> > >                  router out there.  and by openwrt-ideal, i mean:
> > >
> > >                   * runs the latest version of openwrt with a 2.6
> kernel
> > >                   * at least one USB 2.0 port (preferably two)
> > >                   * supports the graphical (luci) interface
> > >                   * etc, etc, you get the idea.
> > >
> > >             Me too ... the development is behind the new models
> > >             available at the
> > >             large stores.
> > >
> > >             Graphical interface is not a must for me. Command line or
> > >             web based
> > >             is fine.
> > >
> > >             But to add to the list:
> > >
> > >             * Wireless N support.
> > >
> > >
> > >          i actually had tossed that in under the "etc, etc" part. :-)
> > >          but if
> > >         someone identifies such a router that's locally available, how
> > >         about a
> > >         kwlug project for a few people to each buy one, and then have
> the
> > >         locals document the crap out of it and put that up at the kwlug
> site
> > >         so others can do the same?
> > >
> > >          from my experiences with the openwrt list, the biggest
> drawback for
> > >         beginners to get into openwrt is:
> > >
> > >          * deciding which router to buy, then
> > >          * learning the hard way that that router has some deficiencies
> > >
> > >         if enough kwlug people can agree on a particular router that
> would
> > >         seem to fit most peoples' needs, we can collectively document
> > >         exactly
> > >         how to get it running out of the box, at which point a *lot*
> more
> > >         people should be able to follow along.
> > >
> > >          it's just a thought.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Khalid M. Baheyeldin
> > > 2bits.com <http://2bits.com>, Inc.
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