[kwlug-disc] Re-thinking the Ubuntu/Yahoo deal

Lori Paniak ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
Wed Feb 3 08:49:19 EST 2010


My only question is if Bing will be a pull-down search option as well?

What the world really needs is a distributed, FLOSS search engine that
anyone can contribute to.

On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 05:02 -0800, Raul Suarez wrote:
> Hi Chris, 
> 
> Regarding you preparing for flames: Flame retardant suits tend to get too hot and have a very narrow window that limit visibility.
> 
> I think you read too much into my comments to the point that you read things that I didn't say or maybe I am reading too much into yours and you are not responding to my post but adding to it.
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca> wrote:
> 
> > There is a common misconception that if you're not the only
> > party benefiting from a situation, then the situation is not
> > desirable. But the Internet functions on the very idea that 
> > things are not always zero-sum.
> 
> Actually if you read it again without the expectation of flames, you'll see that I'm explicitly OK with commercial partnerships.
> 
> It was the idea that Microsoft is paying to advance Ubuntu what didn't seem right as I think it is the other way around.
> 
> > You don't need to be shoving Microsoft's face in the dirt to
> > get ahead (We're supposed to be better than that, right?).
> 
> Again, you read too much here. I diligently re-read my post and there is no Microsoft bashing at all. Not that I'll ever preclude my self from doing it when they deserve it.
> 
> > Musings about backdoor deals and secret agendas are
> > captivating...
> 
> I'm sure you find them captivating as you brought issues that have nothing to do with my post. I didn't even consider this a backdoor deal or secret agenda. It is a public deal and Microsoft's agenda is clear.
> 
> > But even saying Google is a good company ignores the bad
> > things they've done...
> 
> Now I am really thinking that you didn't even read my post. Here I quote my self to save you the time : "Google may not be the beacon of purity they want to portrait but at least they support Free software."
> 
> Then you bring Yahoo's contributions. I purposely left Yahoo, and how it benefits from the deal out of the reflection. I was talking about a direct line in this deal between Canonical and Microsoft and the direction of the flow of money.
> 
> I wasn't even bashing Canonical for the deal, I posted it with the clear purpose to understand the deal. I was thinking aloud as I do in all my other posts.
> 
> In the end I think that you properly answered the question of "How does this deal with Yahoo makes sense?":
> "Canonical is in the red and this deal brings them more money than the previous deal".
> 
> I will consider editing my post as it seems that it has hidden lines that I didn't intend and cannot even see. I will start by changing the title to "Reflecting on..."
> 
> Raul Suarez
> 
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