[kwlug-disc] setting up a new VM under ubuntu server 10.04 LTS

Lori Paniak ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
Tue Apr 20 14:15:24 EDT 2010

The last time I used them, qemu and basic ubuntu kvm only provided a NAT
virtual adapter to the VM by default.  If you wanted something more
fancy like a bridged adapter you were on your own to fight with
bridge-utils.  Then with bridging, it wasn't automatically a given that
you could bridge to a wifi interface due to some issue with putting the
device into promiscuous mode.  This may be ancient history now - or not.

That's why I jumped to VirtualBox.  It's F/LOSS and it "just works".

On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 14:04 -0400, unsolicited wrote:
> I don't understand, why is wi-fi even an element here?
> The vm would have no wi-fi. How the host gets out to the net is the 
> host's problem. Internally, the host and vm will connect, in one of 
> the multitude of ways that can be set up.
> If I understand Bob's question correctly, he's talking about the 
> default / minimum connectivity / settings needed to get vm networking 
> up and going (even if in a host only setting). eth0 should always be 
> present and should be defaulted to, unchanging, for all vm's in these 
> non-networking complex scenario's.
> 	Granted, you could do an internal direct / non-networked 
> communication manner, but why bother. [Taking out the simple case of 
> host/vm file sharing which is mount point based not network based.]
> There should already be 1 - 3 host virtual network adapters present. 
> VM's connect to one of those 3 depending upon the vm networking method 
> chosen. I would have expected there to be noting needed for 
> configuring, it should 'just work.'
> Chris Irwin wrote, On 04/20/2010 1:08 PM:
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:20, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday at crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> >>  so, i follow the instructions and run "vmbuilder" with the
> >> appropriate args *but* i completely skip the network configuration
> >> part since i want to test what happens if i ignore that part entirely.
> > 
> >>  what i would *like* to do is leave wlan0 running, of course, but
> >> simply add whatever netconfig i need to have net connectivity between
> >> the host and the guest -- i don't want to get into bridged networking
> >> yet.
> > 
> > The network is by default configured for host<->guest
> > connectivity. You probably won't be able to bridge with a wireless
> > interface anyway. You will be able to do NAT if you like. I can not
> > recall if the default network is NAT by default, or purely internal.
> > 
> >>  as you can see, the "virbr0" interface on the host appears to have
> >> been configured correctly as a node on the internal 192.168.122.X
> >> network.  but to connect to the newly-running guest, that guest also
> >> must (naturally) be on that same network.  i've done nothing to mess
> >> with the host's /etc/network/interfaces file, so what would i need to
> >> do to that file in order to have host wireless continue to run, while
> >> allowing the newly-started guest to pick up an internal IP address so
> >> that i can do host->guest SSH?
> > 
> > You shouldn't have to do anything special network-wise. You likely
> > don't have a network interface on the guest. You'll have to use virsh
> > and the "attach-interface" command. `virsh help attach-interface` will
> > give you a bit on useage. I'm not sure if that is hot-pluggable of if
> > you need to restart the VM.
> > 
> > I've unfortunately been extremely busy this week with an office move,
> > taxes, and other things. I hopefully will get around to crossing a few
> > things off my todo list on wednesday:
> > 
> > - Posting my slides
> > - Updating to Ubuntu's Lucid
> > - Create a VM with vmbuilder and no network to see how to manually add
> > an interface.
> > 
> > On the flip-side, if you have X11, you can use virt-manager, which is
> > the GUI front-end to libvirt (virsh is the CLI front-end).
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