[kwlug-disc] Ontario GNU Linux Fest Carpooling

Raul Suarez rarsa at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 25 00:49:36 EDT 2009


I was using Opera and it said something like "Sorry, we don't know if it works with your browser so we better don't let you use the site" (Not exactly that but to that effect)

I mean, shouldn't I be the one to decide if I want to try or not?

 Raul Suarez


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----- Original Message ----
From: Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 3:30:26 AM
Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Ontario GNU Linux Fest Carpooling

I'm very critical of sites that are browser specific, or Flash-dependent, or Javascript-dependent.  http://pickuppal.com *is* Javascript-dependent, but otherwise works fine in Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.10...

The Javascript-dependence is unfortunate, as I can't see any reason for it.  Yes, the Google slippy-map is nice, but it could (and should) also be rendered as a static image.   But depending on Javascript to click the form buttons is just poor Web design. 
And, for a Web2.0 site it's remarkably lacking in protocols like OpenID, Atom/RSS, iCal, and microformats.

--Bob.


Raul Suarez wrote:
> 
> yes, Potential but they do something that always gets under my nerves:
> 
> 
> They try to dictate what browser you should use. I agree that they can "recommend" a browser, but not block you from the site if you don't have such browser.
> 
>  Raul Suarez
> 
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> *From:* Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
> *To:* KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> *Sent:* Wed, October 14, 2009 3:54:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [kwlug-disc] Ontario GNU Linux Fest Carpooling
> 
> OK, PickUpPal has potential...
> 
> The user agreement wobbles a bit off ("we can change these terms, and you have to find out for yourself, nyah nyah" - paraphrased), and they seem awfully cavalier about distributing my personal information (but I guess they have to, in order to connect people together).  And the agreement seems to overdo the legal aspects ("Don't transport nuclear weapons, or things that smell bad") while also absolving themselves of all blame.
> 
> Still, the idea is sound. I've created a PickUpPal group for Ontario GNU/Linux Fest, and added my ride.  Let's see if it has legs.  Or wheels.  But I'll keep the Google map up too, for the moment.  http://www.pickuppal.com/pup/group/Ontario-GNULinux-Fest
> 
> --Bob.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris Irwin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:42 -0400, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>>  
>>> Carpooling is just ripe for a good Web2.0 application.
>>>    
>> There is http://www.pickuppal.com/
>> 
>> They have the added benefit of being one of the parties responsible for
>> making carpooling legal in Ontario. No, really.
>> 
>> http://save.pickuppal.com/
>> 
>>  
>>> I've faked something with Google Maps at http://OGLFcarpool.notlong.com where I'm inviting people who are offering a ride to plot their route, and  people who need a ride to put a marker on the map.  The drivers can adjust their route to include the markers.
>>> 
>>> The map is publicly editable, so there is some danger of vandalism.  A *real* Web app should provide some protection from this, and should hide phone numbers and e-mail addresses too.
>>> 
>>> And if anyone can show me how to draw arbitrary routes and points on OpenStreetMap without affecting the underlying database I'll be very happy to switch.
>>>    
>> There is pickup
>> 
>>  
>>> --Bob.
>>> 
>>> Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>        http://sobac.com/sobac/
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>>    
>>>> (thread renamed)
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> I will be driving down to the Days Inn. Depending on where you are in the city, I can come to your place, or you can come to mine.
>>>> 
>>>> I will have room for several people.
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Michael Yang <michael.yxf at gmail.com <mailto:michael.yxf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>>     I am a newbie here. It's nice to hear about this exciting coming
>>>>     event. I have registered for it and want to ask for some travel
>>>>     info. I have to take a bus, because I don't have a car. My current
>>>>     plan is to take a Greyhound bus in the earlier morning on 24th Oct
>>>>     to Toronto downtown, and then take a taxi to Days hotel. I don't
>>>>     know if there is any other better ways to reach the conference
>>>>     hotel. It looks like that the hotel is near the 401 highway, is it
>>>>     possible to ask the greyhound bus driver to stop by the 1677
>>>>     Wilson Avenue when bypassing it?
>>>> 
>>>>     Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Michael.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com
>>>>     <mailto:richard at weait.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>         Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>>         Lots of updates regarding the 'Fest.
>>>>        http://onlinux.ca/node/171
>>>> 
>>>>         Tell your friends and colleagues how much fun you had last
>>>>         year, and
>>>>         register now.
>>>> 
>>>>         Best regards,
>>>>         Richard.
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