[kwlug-disc] Ontario GNU Linux Fest Carpooling

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Sat Oct 24 03:30:26 EDT 2009


I'm very critical of sites that are browser specific, or 
Flash-dependent, or Javascript-dependent.  http://pickuppal.com *is* 
Javascript-dependent, but otherwise works fine in Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 
9.10...

The Javascript-dependence is unfortunate, as I can't see any reason for 
it.  Yes, the Google slippy-map is nice, but it could (and should) also 
be rendered as a static image.   But depending on Javascript to click 
the form buttons is just poor Web design. 

And, for a Web2.0 site it's remarkably lacking in protocols like OpenID, 
Atom/RSS, iCal, and microformats.

--Bob.


Raul Suarez wrote:
>
> yes, Potential but they do something that always gets under my nerves:
>
>
> They try to dictate what browser you should use. I agree that they can 
> "recommend" a browser, but not block you from the site if you don't 
> have such browser.
>
>  
> Raul Suarez
>
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> *From:* Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com>
> *To:* KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
> *Sent:* Wed, October 14, 2009 3:54:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [kwlug-disc] Ontario GNU Linux Fest Carpooling
>
> OK, PickUpPal has potential...
>
> The user agreement wobbles a bit off ("we can change these terms, and 
> you have to find out for yourself, nyah nyah" - paraphrased), and they 
> seem awfully cavalier about distributing my personal information (but 
> I guess they have to, in order to connect people together).  And the 
> agreement seems to overdo the legal aspects ("Don't transport nuclear 
> weapons, or things that smell bad") while also absolving themselves of 
> all blame.
>
> Still, the idea is sound. I've created a PickUpPal group for Ontario 
> GNU/Linux Fest, and added my ride.  Let's see if it has legs.  Or 
> wheels.  But I'll keep the Google map up too, for the moment.  
> http://www.pickuppal.com/pup/group/Ontario-GNULinux-Fest
>
> --Bob.
>
>
>
> Chris Irwin wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 16:42 -0400, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>>   
>>> Carpooling is just ripe for a good Web2.0 application.
>>>     
>> There is http://www.pickuppal.com/
>>
>> They have the added benefit of being one of the parties responsible for
>> making carpooling legal in Ontario. No, really.
>>
>> http://save.pickuppal.com/
>>
>>   
>>> I've faked something with Google Maps at http://OGLFcarpool.notlong.com 
>>> where I'm inviting people who are offering a ride to plot their route, 
>>> and  people who need a ride to put a marker on the map.  The drivers can 
>>> adjust their route to include the markers.
>>>
>>> The map is publicly editable, so there is some danger of vandalism.  A 
>>> *real* Web app should provide some protection from this, and should hide 
>>> phone numbers and e-mail addresses too.
>>>
>>> And if anyone can show me how to draw arbitrary routes and points on 
>>> OpenStreetMap without affecting the underlying database I'll be very 
>>> happy to switch.
>>>     
>> There is pickup
>>
>>   
>>> --Bob.
>>>
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>>>
>>> Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>>     
>>>> (thread renamed)
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> I will be driving down to the Days Inn. Depending on where you are in 
>>>> the city, I can come to your place, or you can come to mine.
>>>>
>>>> I will have room for several people.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Michael Yang <michael.yxf at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:michael.yxf at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>     I am a newbie here. It's nice to hear about this exciting coming
>>>>     event. I have registered for it and want to ask for some travel
>>>>     info. I have to take a bus, because I don't have a car. My current
>>>>     plan is to take a Greyhound bus in the earlier morning on 24th Oct
>>>>     to Toronto downtown, and then take a taxi to Days hotel. I don't
>>>>     know if there is any other better ways to reach the conference
>>>>     hotel. It looks like that the hotel is near the 401 highway, is it
>>>>     possible to ask the greyhound bus driver to stop by the 1677
>>>>     Wilson Avenue when bypassing it?
>>>>
>>>>     Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Michael.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com
>>>>     <mailto:richard at weait.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Dear All,
>>>>
>>>>         Lots of updates regarding the 'Fest.
>>>>         http://onlinux.ca/node/171
>>>>
>>>>         Tell your friends and colleagues how much fun you had last
>>>>         year, and
>>>>         register now.
>>>>
>>>>         Best regards,
>>>>         Richard.
>>>>
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