[kwlug-disc] android phone, anyone?

R. Brent Clements rbclemen at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 23:21:54 EST 2009


Another thing that telus does with the palm phones is if you are not
using the standard phone apps then you are billed as though you are
doing tethered internet access with a laptop.  My roomate got caught
with that one accessing gmail with an email client he installed

On 12/17/09, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
> The catch? They charge more for data than on the original phone. They can
>>> easily detect that because the IMEI number is different. But there is a
>>> business
>>> reason for this: the Motorola used a WAP proxy and hence the pages I
>>> browsed
>>> were converted to a very small size byte wise. With the HTC phone, I was
>>> browsing
>>> the web as it is, graphics and all. So the $0.05 per page price no longer
>>> applies.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: they detect that you changed the phone, not via any hidden
>>> firmware
>>> or all that, but a simple match of the SIM vs. the IMEI number. They let
>>> you use the
>>> handset you chose, with the above caveat re: data.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think what you're saying is strictly true. I asked Rogers about
>> this recently when they were advertising $1/day PAYG (Pay As You Go)
>> maximums.
>>
>> Turns out that the different charges you talk about result from which of
>> two proxies your phone is programmed to use. (No reason you can't program
>> both in, and choose which data connection you want when you initiate a
>> data
>> connection. I'm suspect - never tried it though.)
>>
>> I'm not yet convinced it's the hardware itself.
>>
>> One is the wide open internet you talk about, and the resulting charges,
>> and the other uses 'goam'.
>>
>> See below. They claim I can't 'goam' because I have a PDA, but I suspect
>> it's merely that I haven't (yet?) programmed that gateway in.
>>
>
> The way it happened is that I was getting the $0.05 per page rate on my Pay
> As You Go plan when I was on the Motorola phone. That phone had no keyboard
> and typing on phone pad drove me crazy, plus the tiny screen, ...etc.
>
> So, I got an unlocked HTC with a keyboard. I got Opera Mobile, and then went
> online. When I checked my transactions online, I saw the rate was no longer
> $0.05 per page, but rather closer to $2 per page or so. When I called them
> they said "Are you using a phone that is not a Rogers phone"? So they did
> detect that somehow. Could be the fact that I did not have a proxy, or could
> be the IMEI, but they did detect it.
>
>
>> wireless.inq at rci.rogers.com wrote, On 11/04/2009 3:34 PM:
>> > Dear Sir/Madam
>> >
>> > The Palm Treo 680 is a PDA and therefore not compatible with the
>> > $1/day (24 hrs) for unlimited browsing.
>> >
>> > Text messages or email to text are not included with the $1/day (24
>> > hrs) for unlimited browsing.
>> >
>> > The $1/day (24 hrs) unlimited on-device browsing provides access to
>> > GOAM (goam.com) WAP browsing.
>> >
>> > Thank you for choosing Rogers, we appreciate your business. If you
>> > have further questions do not hesitate to reply to this email or
>> > contact us at 1-800-575-9090 Monday-Friday 9am-6pm local time.
>> >
>> > For future email correspondence with respect to this e-mail, please
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Terry D.
>> > Rogers Online Customer Service
>> > http://www.rogers.com
>>
>>
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