[kwlug-disc] Debian "testing" -- not bad

[Doug Moen]

> Can you install new packages in Kinoite?  And, if you "revert" to old version of OS, then what happens to the new packages?

If you install packages as flatpaks, or inside a container (using toolbox or distrobox), then those installations are persistent across upgrades and rollbacks. (Ditto for installing into /usr/local, which is not part of the base system.)

If you install a package into the base system, and you break the system, then you roll back the base system, and that package is no longer installed.

Doug.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2025, at 2:28 AM, William Park wrote:
> Questions...
> 
> 1. Regular Fedora KDE 43 has the same KDE/kernel versions, but after few updates.  So, what's the point of "atomic" when it's updated like the regular?
> 
> 2. Can you install new packages in Kinoite?  And, if you "revert" to old version of OS, then what happens to the new packages?
> 
> 
> On 2025-12-27 18:16, Doug Moen wrote:
>> I'm running Fedora Kinoite. I have Linux 6.17.12, Plasma 6.5.4.
>> This matches Debian testing, so it's up to date.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2025, at 7:16 AM, William Park via kwlug-disc wrote:
>>> (Double posted, so reply to your list)
>>> 
>>> I've been looking for a distro with recent KDE and recent kerne*l*.  So, the benchmark was *Kubuntu* 25.10 (v6.4 KDE, v6.17 kernel).
>>> 
>>> 1. Started with *Mint* + "apt install kde-full".  Result was comparable to Kubuntu LTS, ie. v5.27 KDE, v6.14 kernel.  Makes sense, since Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS.
>>> 
>>> 2. Then, tried *LMDE* + "apt install kde-full".  I was surprised to get a rather recent v6.3 KDE with v6.12 kernel.  I was expecting an old KDE, even older than Mint version.
>>> 
>>> 3. So, decided to try *Debian* *testing* + KDE.  I got v6.5.4 KDE (latest) and v6.17.12 kernel.  Not bad.
>>> 
>>> Right now, *Debian testing* is compiling v6.12.62 and v6.18.1 kernels for Raspberry Pi Zero 2W.  We'll see how it goes.
>>> 
>>> To those using Debian testing, how would you rate its stability?  Is it suitable for daily PC?
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