[kwlug-disc] $30,000/yr to get your app on the $nap $tore

[Charles M]

I felt that frustration/lack of good documentation when making a snap.
I managed to make the snap, but never could get audio working
correctly despite trying several methods. I sent it up to the snap
store, but never saw it there. Likely I missed some approval step as
I'm sure other apps with binary blobs are in the snap store.

$30K seems a bit crazy when it costs $100USD to put an app in the
Steam store, mind you most of those apps are game/gamedev-related.

At some point I might give it a go again. Alan Pope mention that it
was time for an Ubuntu Wiki reboot:
https://twitter.com/popey/status/1371601610397388807

Cheers,

Charles

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:49 PM Rob Gilson <thatotherdude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The trouble with interfaces resonates with my experience - I spent no small amount of time trying to understand the Snap security model and why my app wouldn't run before giving up and run it in beta with gross "I accept this dangerous package" flags.
>
> Classic mode sounds like a great escape hatch for this but it's no small major hurdle for solo FOSS developers who has to juggle snapcraft-ing with everything else to get through to an approval for classic mode on the support forums.
>
> One thing they don't mention here is that the Snapcraft documentation is very sparse and outright missing things. Also you can google seemingly valid docs that are evidently legacy / no longer supported buth which give no indication that they are out of date.
>
> So anyways it's been a year (maybe more?) of just not dealing with that problem and instead focusing on developing my similarly private cloud FOSS product (teggapp.io). Imagine my surprise then when just as I am wrapping things up for a release (queue I rewrote it in Rust meme) this pops in to my email!
>
> Great article - feeling much less alone in my snapcraft struggles after that and I'm certainly going to take another look at apt :)
>
> Cheer,
> Rob
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:30 PM William Park via kwlug-disc <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>>
>> What about Windows side, then?
>>
>> On 3/16/21 12:29 PM, Doug Moen wrote:
>> > I didn't realize that Ubuntu has erected a paywall around their walled
>> > garden Snap Store.
>> > You can't get your app on the Snap Store without Ubuntu's permission,
>> > you can't run your own Snap Store or provide snap autoupdates without
>> > Ubuntu's permission because the server side is proprietary (unlike
>> > Flatpak), and if your app is related to a commercial business, Ubuntu
>> > wants a cut.
>> > https://www.nitrokey.com/news/2021/nextbox-why-we-decided-and-against-ubuntu-core
>> >
>> > This is exactly the sort of nonsense I'm trying to get away from,
>> > motivating my migration from MacOS to Linux. The bottom line is that I
>> > am no longer comfortable being part of the Ubuntu community. If I
>> > perceive a distro to be malware then I don't want to run it, and I don't
>> > want to spend time after each upgrade disabling malware.
>> >
>> > In other news, I notice that Wayland finally reaches a "1.0" state in
>> > the forthcoming Fedora 34 release. There will be support for remote
>> > desktop, and there will be accelerated graphics using an Nvidia GPU.
>> > Wayland deficiencies have been a blocking issue for me in the past when
>> > I've considered running Fedora. Lots of other recent work in Fedora that
>> > interests me too. Eg, Fedora 33 is the first release that defaults to
>> > BTRFS on root.
>> > https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2021/03/15/what-to-look-for-fedora-workstation-34/
>> >
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