[kwlug-disc] Ubuntu 18.04

[doug moen]

I wonder about this as well. Did some googling. Here's what seems to be
going on.


   - Network Manager is a high level interface for managing your network
   configuration. It has config files. Created by Red Hat in 2004.
   - systemd-networkd is the systemd replacement for Network Manager. Newer
   than Network Manager, and apparently not an acceptable replacement for it
   in all circumstances.
   - Ubuntu 18.04 supports both Network Manager and systemd-networkd. The
   Netplan design doc says:
      - Wifi and WWAN get managed by NetworkManager
      - Any other configured devices get handled by networkd by default,
      unless explicitly marked as managed by a specific manager
   - Netplan is an Ubuntu project; a high level interface for managing your
   network configuration. It can be configured to translate netplan config
   into either Network Manager config or systemd-networkd config.


Maybe there's a bit of this going on: https://xkcd.com/927/

On 29 March 2018 at 14:05, Raymond Chen <raymondchen625 at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's one of the things I always get confused of Debian/Ubuntu. I
> remember whenever I reinstalled a new Raspbian on my Pi, I had to learn a
> new way to configure a static IP address. It's not hard but why they keep
> changing it? So at a point I started to use dynamic IP address and changed
> my router settings instead.
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Netplan... okay more things I need to re-learn.  Huzzah!  I already am
>> annoyed that I have to learn the IP command instead of if{up/down/whatever}
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 1:02 PM L.D. Paniak <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have 18.04 running on a research server for a month now.
>>> No problems once you get over the new network configuration stack:
>>> netplan
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan
>>>
>>> Someone with experience should give a talk on this...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/29/2018 12:41 PM, Chamunks wrote:
>>>
>>> I find that Ubuntu can be edgy enough to keep you using latest tech
>>> which is nice to an extent but at the same time, it can also be a bit rocky
>>> right after an upgrade.  Granted CI/CD strategies being deployed and
>>> adopted everywhere has definitely helped reduce the drama created by living
>>> on the edge.
>>>
>>> @Khalid I did notice that the .x releases of LTS were about when it was
>>> good to jump on board too.  Although there have been the odd years I think
>>> 14.04 that they didn't have a .x release but I don't recall exactly.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same for me.
>>>>
>>>> I don't bother trying it out until a .1 or .2 is released.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I generally tend to avoid the latest Ubuntu releases for a good solid
>>>>> 2 months after they drop publicly.  How do you find 18.04 now?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM CrankyOldBugger <
>>>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone's interested..  I've been running the Bionic Beaver in beta
>>>>>> for over a week now (just for a short while in a VM each day, not as my
>>>>>> primary machine), and so far I like what I'm seeing.  Seems to be much
>>>>>> happier than 17.10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if you decide to install 18.04, be sure to grab GNOME Tweaks as
>>>>>> soon as you can so you can change the dock to dash-to-dock and move it to
>>>>>> the bottom of the screen.  The way they have it set up on the left is just
>>>>>> confusing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe that the actual release date is in the last week of April.
>>>>>>
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