[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

Paul Nijjar paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca
Thu Mar 22 09:05:50 EDT 2018 

So maybe this is a little strong. We definitely need at least one
volunteer to be present at every meeting, since we cannot share
biometrics around. But I am wary of saying "must commit to attend to
most meetings" because that quickly turns into "commit to attend about
half the meetings" and then we are in trouble. There really is some
kind of commitment involved. 

On the other hand, there are other roles at KWLUG which require far
less commitment. It would be nice to have some help with those tasks.

- Paul


On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Paul Nijjar wrote:
> 
> As I wrote privately to Chamunks: since there are only two people
> allowed the volunteers need to commit to attending every meeting.
> Otherwise if neither shows up we are out of a space. 
> 
> - Paul
> 
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:14:58PM +0000, CrankyOldBugger wrote:
> > It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a spare
> > backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics members.  I
> > > might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us it
> > > seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
> > > Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a difficult
> > > time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable with
> > > paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with the
> > > document I have here scanned via my android.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
> > > acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Paul,
> > >>
> > >> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
> > >> responsibility for opening then space.
> > >>
> > >> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a person
> > >> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about using
> > >> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what the
> > >> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
> > >>
> > >> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all our
> > >> dates in 2018.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
> > >> >
> > >> > Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in being a
> > >> > host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings, being
> > >> > present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
> > >> > biometrically?
> > >> >
> > >> > There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping them get
> > >> > ready for the meeting.
> > >> >
> > >> > It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
> > >> > willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially with
> > >> > somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
> > >> >
> > >> > - Paul
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > >> >> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the situation
> > >> either
> > >> >> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with biometrics for
> > >> the
> > >> >> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to connect
> > >> with
> > >> >> the property manager as well.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what we
> > >> >>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
> > >> >>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for specific
> > >> >>> months then we can try to meet there.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who are not
> > >> >>> only me).
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since Spectrum
> > >> >>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the landlords
> > >> >>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular days.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so long as I
> > >> >>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the street
> > >> >>> from SJK.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> - Paul
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > >> >>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the new
> > >> >>> property
> > >> >>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and the
> > >> >>> section
> > >> >>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
> > >> regardless of
> > >> >>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
> > >> >>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property owner
> > >> wants
> > >> >>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept exciting.
> > >> >>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something mentioning that
> > >> the
> > >> >>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in the
> > >> >>> co-share
> > >> >>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been any
> > >> >>> explicit
> > >> >>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however in this
> > >> >>> case I
> > >> >>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept of
> > >> having
> > >> >>> us
> > >> >>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
> > >> ecosystem
> > >> >>> as
> > >> >>>> our "cost".
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
> > >> >>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> - Paul
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next door to
> > >> >>>>> Google.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
> > >> >>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
> > >> >>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
> > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
> > >> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ Lab was
> > >> >>> there
> > >> >>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space would
> > >> come
> > >> >>> with
> > >> >>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of other KWLUG
> > >> >>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share space which
> > >> >>> is in
> > >> >>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down the
> > >> >>> road if
> > >> >>>>> we
> > >> >>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
> > >> projected
> > >> >>>>> onto a
> > >> >>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much easier
> > >> >>> then
> > >> >>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our stuff
> > >> >>> securely on
> > >> >>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do now.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
> > >> building
> > >> >>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could likely
> > >> >>> set
> > >> >>>>> up a
> > >> >>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
> > >> >>> increasing
> > >> >>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them into
> > >> >>> letting
> > >> >>>>> us
> > >> >>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for ourselves
> > >> >>> because I
> > >> >>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss outside of
> > >> >>> this
> > >> >>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on Meetup.
> > >> There
> > >> >>>>> are a
> > >> >>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting groups in
> > >> the
> > >> >>>>>> region.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> So in abstract,
> > >> >>>>>> Pros:
> > >> >>>>>> - New secure space for us
> > >> >>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
> > >> suitable
> > >> >>>>> for a
> > >> >>>>>> meeting here and there.
> > >> >>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
> > >> >>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
> > >> >>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
> > >> >>>>>> - HD Projector.
> > >> >>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
> > >> >>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
> > >> >>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
> > >> >>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so we're not
> > >> >>> really
> > >> >>>>>> moving far.
> > >> >>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
> > >> >>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats at the
> > >> >>>>> location
> > >> >>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the expansion of
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>>>>> group.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Cons:
> > >> >>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so no
> > >> >>>>> Accessible
> > >> >>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
> > >> >>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen but no
> > >> >>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in the
> > >> >>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
> > >> >>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more parking
> > >> >>> planned.
> > >> >>>>>
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