[kwlug-disc] I found a decent space for us if we want it.

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Wed Mar 21 08:14:58 EDT 2018


It looks like you have a fine pair of volunteers, but if you need a spare
backup redundant extra person, pencil my name in.


On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:13 Chamunks <chamunks at gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, so there's a contract and a limitation of 2 biometrics members.  I
> might be able to convince Kapley the building owner into three of us it
> seems like there is a bit of a disparity between what Stephanie
> Goertz(spelling?) want out of it or are able to do.  I have a difficult
> time accepting less than my goals at times.  Do we feel comfortable with
> paperwork?  If so I can upload a PDF out of the list to you two with the
> document I have here scanned via my android.
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 5:23 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <
> acant at alumni.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I am happy to get setup as someone who can host, and share
>> responsibility for opening then space.
>>
>> I agree that a meeting with everyone who would be a host and a person
>> from the the building I a good way to start. We can learn about using
>> the space. Also hopefully make sure that we are all clear on what the
>> building owners are getting out of this arrangement.
>>
>> If we try it and it works, maybe we can explicitly book it for all our
>> dates in 2018.
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On 2018-03-09 6:39 PM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:i
>> >
>> > Is there anybody else in the group who would be interested in being a
>> > host for the group? This would involve setting up for meetings, being
>> > present, and shutting down. I guess it also means being scanned
>> > biometrically?
>> >
>> > There may also be duties with scheduling speakers and helping them get
>> > ready for the meeting.
>> >
>> > It would be good to have Colin, me, and at least two other people
>> > willing to take on this role. We should all meet, potentially with
>> > somebody from the building who could help us book the space.
>> >
>> > - Paul
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:14:26PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> >> That would be fine by me.  I wasn't sure I was keen on the situation
>> either
>> >> exactly so I asked and they said they'd hook me up with biometrics for
>> the
>> >> meeting space down the road too. I've also taken the time to connect
>> with
>> >> the property manager as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 5:49 PM Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Okay. Let's arrange a meeting to figure out the logistics (what we
>> >>> need to access the space, who needs to be present to host, what
>> >>> arrangements they want, etc). If we can book the space for specific
>> >>> months then we can try to meet there.
>> >>>
>> >>> We will also want a set of people who can host the space (who are not
>> >>> only me).
>> >>>
>> >>> I have some familarity with the Boemher box building, since Spectrum
>> >>> is there. I have heard mixed reviews of how responsive the landlords
>> >>> are. I would want assurances that we can book for particular days.
>> >>>
>> >>> The fallback plan to this could remain St John's Kitchen, so long as I
>> >>> am around and have keys. Boehmer Box is basically across the street
>> >>> from SJK.
>> >>>
>> >>> - Paul
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:51:45PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> >>>> Is it the Boemher Box building.  Which is why I mentioned the new
>> >>> property
>> >>>> management and renovations they are reworking the building and the
>> >>> section
>> >>>> we will be hosted is going to be a well maintained section
>> regardless of
>> >>>> what happens in the rest of the building.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There's two levels of response.  Free and not free.
>> >>>> - So free being we are allowed the space because the property owner
>> wants
>> >>>> us as a feature in his building and find's the concept exciting.
>> >>>> - Not free being we could put up a sign or something mentioning that
>> the
>> >>>> space is available for people if they wanted to rent a desk in the
>> >>> co-share
>> >>>> space.  Likely just toss in a thanks however there hasn't been any
>> >>> explicit
>> >>>> requirements stated about this sort of thing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nothing is free in this world it all costs something however in this
>> >>> case I
>> >>>> think that the owner of the building is happy with the concept of
>> having
>> >>> us
>> >>>> in the building to help educate and attract people into their
>> ecosystem
>> >>> as
>> >>>> our "cost".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 7:45 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <
>> >>>> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This is the Boemher Box building?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What is the cost for use of the space?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - Paul
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 07:22:16PM +0000, Chamunks wrote:
>> >>>>>> There is a space that I've found it's a co-share space next door to
>> >>>>> Google.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Location 1 Photos:
>> >>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zELtRVgM7XodrNcw2
>> >>>>>> Location 1 Map Link:
>> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/3YcX4aW8yAq
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Location 2 Map Link:
>> >>>>>> https://goo.gl/maps/YQb7jwhihrB2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The location is under new property management since KWARTZ Lab was
>> >>> there
>> >>>>>> with Kaplan being on site more often.  The co-share space would
>> come
>> >>> with
>> >>>>>> Biometric after-hours access for myself and a number of other KWLUG
>> >>>>>> members.  This access would be granted for the Co-Share space which
>> >>> is in
>> >>>>>> the photos I posted and for the Datacenter office space down the
>> >>> road if
>> >>>>> we
>> >>>>>> aren't able to lock in the co-share space for some reason.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The co-share space comes with an HD projector which can be
>> projected
>> >>>>> onto a
>> >>>>>> massive white wall so that everyone in the room can see much easier
>> >>> then
>> >>>>>> what we've had now.  We would also be able to store our stuff
>> >>> securely on
>> >>>>>> site so that we could have a bit more permanence than we do now.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ideally, what I was thinking because there is an ISP in the
>> building
>> >>>>>> CloudWiFi and the Co-Share itself has its own WiFi we could likely
>> >>> set
>> >>>>> up a
>> >>>>>> proper streaming setup as well which would be beneficial for
>> >>> increasing
>> >>>>>> attendance of the KWLUG.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We also would have the potential option to maybe talk them into
>> >>> letting
>> >>>>> us
>> >>>>>> use their Meetup account if we don't arrange one for ourselves
>> >>> because I
>> >>>>>> think one of the biggest things ( that we should discuss outside of
>> >>> this
>> >>>>>> thread if we want to discuss it ) is that we're not on Meetup.
>> There
>> >>>>> are a
>> >>>>>> lot of people who rely on Meetup to locate interesting groups in
>> the
>> >>>>>> region.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So in abstract,
>> >>>>>> Pros:
>> >>>>>> - New secure space for us
>> >>>>>> - Two potential locations in case one is for some reason not
>> suitable
>> >>>>> for a
>> >>>>>> meeting here and there.
>> >>>>>> - Meetup Account we may not have to moderate ourselves.
>> >>>>>> - Stable and likely fiber connectivity.
>> >>>>>> - Full network infrastructure available.
>> >>>>>> - HD Projector.
>> >>>>>> - Large wall for projection screen usage.
>> >>>>>> - Quiet and productive environment.
>> >>>>>> - 24/7 access for core members of KWLUG at two locations.
>> >>>>>> - Within a visual range of our current meeting space so we're not
>> >>> really
>> >>>>>> moving far.
>> >>>>>> - Kitchenette if we wanted to do food for whatever reason.
>> >>>>>> - A fairly motivated community manager who wears many hats at the
>> >>>>> location
>> >>>>>> who may be interested in helping out with driving the expansion of
>> >>> the
>> >>>>>> group.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Cons:
>> >>>>>> - The building is undergoing a fairly significant upgrade so no
>> >>>>> Accessible
>> >>>>>> entrance yet but one is planned.
>> >>>>>> - Parking may be less convenient than the St. Johns kitchen but no
>> >>>>>> extortionate paid parking seems to be taking up residence in the
>> >>>>>> surrounding streets as of yet.
>> >>>>>> - Somewhat limited shared parking currently with more parking
>> >>> planned.
>> >>>>>
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>> >>>>>
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>> >
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