[kwlug-disc] What is all this about systemd?

[William Park]

The direction that systemd is trying to go, does have non-technical
merits.  By combining small obscure individual services into one big
one, it will force developers to fix bugs, because those bugs will be in
everyone's face.  More people to find bugs or add features, because
everyone will be using the same program.

Personally, I wouldn't mind that happening for distros.  Having 6 major
distros and their variations is becoming wasteful.  There should be one
Linux.
-- 
William


On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 02:07:44AM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> Some *BSD folk are worried about systemd being not availabe on *BSD,
> and that prevents Gnome from being an option for the desktop on that
> platform. Hence, some thought emulating systemd is the way to go.
> 
> As for 'us', I see BSD as part of 'us'. Competition is good, otherwise
> we have stagnation. Choice is good too (most of the time).
> 
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:32 AM, William Park <opengeometry at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > Why should we care about non-Linux?  Especially, when they don't are
> > care about Linux.  They, all combined, are like what Linux is to
> > Windows.
> > --
> > William
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 11:21:31PM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
> >> And in other news ...
> >>
> >> A Google Summer Of Code project aimed at writing a systemd replacement
> >> for OpenBSD (because the systemd folk only care about Linux, not
> >> POSIX, and use Linux only APIs).
> >>
> >> "The work achieved this summer was developing replacements for the
> >> systemd-hostnamed, systemd-localed, systemd-timedated, and
> >> systemd-logind utilities." ... AWESOME!
> >>
> >> And ...
> >>
> >> "The hope is to allow for systemd-dependent components like more
> >> recent versions of GNOME to now run on OpenBSD."
> >>
> >> So, now, a desktop environment (Gnome) has a hard dependency on a
> >> specific init daemon (systemd) that happens to be written exclusively
> >> for Linux, and people are solving the issue by porting/emulating the
> >> problem daemon on OpenBSD (systembsd).
> >>
> >> Hmmm ...
> >>
> >> http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/14/09/08/0250207/gsoc-project-works-to-emulate-systemd-for-openbsd
> >> --
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> Khalid M. Baheyeldin
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