<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>On Thu, Oct 26, 2023, at 11:00, Jason wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div>Thanks, but there is way more historical data on the US site, even if<br></div><div>it's annoying to do the currency conversion.<br></div><div>Unless I'm missing something?<br></div><div><br></div><div>CCC Canada: <a href="https://3cmls.co/CA/B0CG6BPJ81">https://3cmls.co/CA/B0CG6BPJ81</a><br></div><div>CCC USA: <a href="https://3cmls.co/US/B0BTZB7F88">https://3cmls.co/US/B0BTZB7F88</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think the issue in this example isn't that CCC has different history measurements for canada/us, but that amazon canada doesn't sell the 7800X3D, and there is thus no history for it. (There's just a third party retailer on Amazon, not Amazon itself).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Compare with the 7900X3D, which is actually sold by amazon. You'll note it has similar history to the US site:<br></div><div><br></div><div>* Can: <a href="https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0BTRRNK7T?context=search">https://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0BTRRNK7T?context=search</a><br></div><div>* US: <a href="https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0BTRRNK7T?context=search">https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0BTRRNK7T?context=search</a></div><div><br></div><div>While I use CCC as well, my gripe with it is that it is amazon-specific. There isn't really a great multi-site alternative for *everything* amazon sells (I find shopbot to be inaccurate more often than not, unfortunately).<br></div><div><br></div><div>That said, for PC hardware specifically, pcpartpicker (if you change to the Canadian locale) will compare prices between Canadian vendors (or at least Canadian subsidiaries), including historical graphs: Memex, newegg canada, etc. It also supports sending email alerts, like CCC.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof">https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On another topic from elsewhere in this discussion: Cooling.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't have experience with the 7000-series, but I have a 5800X3D in a small-form-factor case. You'll want to take special note of cooling, moreso than CPUs I've used in the past.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I had been using the same Noctua NH-U9S cooler for a few years. Granted, thats a much smaller cooler than you picked (90mm vs 140mm). It worked great with Ryzen 1600, 3600, 5600x CPUs. However, when I put my 5800X3D in, the CPU was thermal throttling unless I had the fans set to "airplane takeoff" mode, and even there it was still on the line. I partially resolved the issue with more case fans, but the system was uncomfortably loud. It was amazing how much hotter the CPU ran (apparently there's several X3D-related reasons for that). I eventually switched to a 240mm AIO that works very well, and is near silent (and I was able to remove a few case fans in the process).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Granted, the cooler you've picked is significantly bigger, and you have more case airflow (not SFF). So you'll probably be fine. But I recommend a few stress tests to start, otherwise you'll be troubleshooting weird performance issues (particularly if you're playing games, which I assume you are with an X3D chip).<br></div><div><br></div><div>And finally: Gaming and Wayland.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Some people have issues, and still prefer X11, for gaming specifically. Some people seem to not notice issues. YMMV. For reference, the Steam Deck is still using X11 I believe, although they've implemented a Wayland compositor in the middle to abstract a lot of details (gamescope). They're still driving the actual display with X11 (I haven't seen any news that this has changed). I believe games on Steam Deck are typically [Game] -> [XWayland] -> [Gamescope/Wayland compositor] -> [KWin/X11]. Seems to work for them, and the gamescope middleware provides some *significant* QOL improvements.<br></div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, I've been using Wayland for years and am very happy with it. But I don't do a lot of Linux gaming at the moment, though I try to keep up with the related news.<br></div><div><br></div><div id="sig91988184"><div class="signature">--<br></div><div class="signature"><b>Chris Irwin</b><br></div><div class="signature"><br></div><div class="signature"><span class="font" style="font-family:menlo, consolas, monospace, sans-serif;">email: chris@chrisirwin.ca</span><br></div><div class="signature"><span class="font" style="font-family:menlo, consolas, monospace, sans-serif;"> web: <a href="https://chrisirwin.ca">https://chrisirwin.ca</a></span><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>