<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Would it be possible to do a test call in the Dana Porter location sometime in the next couple weeks to see what it would be like? I can bring a tripod, webcam and Jabra puck microphone. </div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, at 9:36 AM, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div>At this point we have two potential meeting locations. Thanks to the<br></div><div>KWLUG members who offered them. I am trying to keep their identities<br></div><div>confidential, but they can out themselves if they wish.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now the question is which (if either) we choose, and how we make that<br></div><div>decision. As a first step I am posting a writeup below, in the hopes<br></div><div>it will provoke some discussion and opinions. I also have<br></div><div>some pictures, but I have not posted them anywhere. If there are<br></div><div>particular things you want to see then let me know.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you have thoughts/preferences/opinions you can post them here or<br></div><div>send them directly to me. In a week I will summarize what I heard.<br></div><div><br></div><div>August's meeting will be online. September is up in the air, but it is<br></div><div>plausible that could be the first in-person (or hybrid?) meeting. <br></div><div><br></div><div>- Paul<br></div><div><br></div><div>KWLUG Meeting Locations<br></div><div>=======================<br></div><div><br></div><div>100 Garment Street<br></div><div>------------------<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a community meeting room on the third floor of a condo. A<br></div><div>KWLUG member lives in the building and has agreed to host us each<br></div><div>month.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The building is a 5-10 minute walk from Victoria and King in<br></div><div>Kitchener, so is close to downtown.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Capacity: 15 people comfortably, 20 at most. The space is pretty small<br></div><div>and there is furniture there we cannot move.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Availability: There is no formal booking system, so there is some<br></div><div>chance we could be displaced. However, the host thinks this is not<br></div><div>likely. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Reliability: We are reliant on the host to be present for every<br></div><div>meeting.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Access: The building is wheelchair accessible. To get to the meeting<br></div><div>room one has to be let in the door (there is controlled access) and go<br></div><div>up an elevator. It is not clear whether we can put up signs on meeting<br></div><div>nights, but the host thinks it may be possible.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Internet: There is public wifi, and possibly a second wifi we can use for<br></div><div>streaming. There is no wired internet available.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Parking: Parking onsite is expensive. There is an underground parking<br></div><div>garage which costs $2.50 for 30 minutes, so the average KWLUG attendee<br></div><div>can expect to pay $12.50 per meeting. There is a small amount of<br></div><div>on-street parking on Oak Street, and some parking available in<br></div><div>downtown Kitchener.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Transit: there is an LRT station at Victoria and King St.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Streaming/Equipment: We would have to provide a projector, and<br></div><div>whatever equipment we want to use for streaming. The host may be able<br></div><div>to store some equipment at their condo, but maybe not a lot.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>University of Waterloo Dana Porter Library<br></div><div>------------------------------------------<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a classroom space in the Dana Porter library ("the sugar<br></div><div>cube") at the University of Waterloo. The specific space is LIB 329.<br></div><div>It is being offered by a KWLUG member who works at the university.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Capacity: 30+ people. It is a full classroom with row seating.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Availability: It should be fairly reliably available, although there<br></div><div>is no booking system. There are other classrooms we might be able to<br></div><div>use if we are displaced.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Reliability: Unclear. We are probably reliant on a UW employee to host<br></div><div>us. The proposing host has offered to host us, or help look for<br></div><div>replacements if they are unable to attend. There are a few other<br></div><div>people who work at UW. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Access: The building is wheelchair accessible. There are elevators to<br></div><div>the space. We will probably not be able to put up signs. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Internet: There is wifi available that requires a name and email to use.<br></div><div>People who are affiliated with a university can use Eduroam.<br></div><div>There may be some chance of getting our own SSID but this is unlikely.<br></div><div>Wired network for streaming might be possible, but is not arranged.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Parking: There is no free parking anywhere near UW. There are paid<br></div><div>parking lots for $5/evening.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Transit: there is an LRT station at the university. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Streaming/Equipment: There is a projector with HDMI input. We would<br></div><div>have to provide other streaming equipment, and carry it back and forth<br></div><div>to meetings.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Unlikely Locations<br></div><div>------------------<br></div><div><br></div><div>### Community Hub at St John's the Evangelist<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is not available Monday evenings. It could be a possibility if <br></div><div>we were willing to switch meeting nights.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>### SDG Hub in Downtown Kitchener<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a new space. The booking fee for the large room is $400/hour.<br></div><div>There is a smaller room for less, but they currently do not do evening<br></div><div>bookings.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>### Public library spaces<br></div><div><br></div><div>These may be available but not reliability. Prices vary from $50 at<br></div><div>some remote libraries in Kitchener (eg Forest Heights), to $150 for<br></div><div>two hours at the Waterloo Public Library.<br></div><div><br></div><div>### Churches, Public Schools<br></div><div><br></div><div>In addition to a booking fee we would need to purchase liability<br></div><div>insurance. This may be possible but it seemed frustrating the last<br></div><div>time we looked because we are not a registered organization.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>### KWartzlab<br></div><div><br></div><div>The space is inaccessible (on the second floor) and there are no large<br></div><div>meeting spaces (maybe 15 people at most?). A KWartzlab member would<br></div><div>have to host.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Other Places to Investigate<br></div><div>---------------------------<br></div><div><br></div><div>### Workhaus or other coworking spaces<br></div><div><br></div><div>This would likely be expensive, but may be worth investigating.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>### Restaurants<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is likely not reliable, and there would be an expectation that<br></div><div>people purchase food and drink.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>### The Working Centre<br></div><div><br></div><div>The Queen St Commons building has hosted a few events since the end of<br></div><div>the pandemic, but Paul no longer has strong connections there. The<br></div><div>space is also somewhat inaccessible, although there are ramps at the<br></div><div>back.<br></div><div><br></div><div>St John's Kitchen is probably out of the question. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Events: <a href="https://feeds.off-topic.kwlug.org">https://feeds.off-topic.kwlug.org</a> <br></div><div>Housing: <a href="https://unionsd.coop">https://unionsd.coop</a><br></div><div>Blog: <a href="http://pnijjar.freeshell.org">http://pnijjar.freeshell.org</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>