<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Random locations each month? Sounds plausible. We could have a pool of volunteers who can host at various locations. This addresses the problem of a single volunteer not being reliably available every month of the year. But it increases coordination costs.</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, at 9:59 AM, Jason Eckert wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div>The outside event we had back in 2018 was pretty fun too: <a href="https://twitter.com/the_unix_guru/status/1069794045239668736" class="">https://twitter.com/the_unix_guru/status/1069794045239668736</a><br></div><div>We could always meet at random-selected secret outdoor locations each month with equipment (I have a portable projector/screen), wearing conspicuous hoodies ;-)<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 09:39, Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>At this point we have two potential meeting locations. Thanks to the<br></div><div> KWLUG members who offered them. I am trying to keep their identities<br></div><div> confidential, but they can out themselves if they wish.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Now the question is which (if either) we choose, and how we make that<br></div><div> decision. As a first step I am posting a writeup below, in the hopes<br></div><div> it will provoke some discussion and opinions. I also have<br></div><div> some pictures, but I have not posted them anywhere. If there are<br></div><div> particular things you want to see then let me know.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> If you have thoughts/preferences/opinions you can post them here or<br></div><div> send them directly to me. In a week I will summarize what I heard.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> August's meeting will be online. September is up in the air, but it is<br></div><div> plausible that could be the first in-person (or hybrid?) meeting. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> - Paul<br></div><div> <br></div><div> KWLUG Meeting Locations<br></div><div> =======================<br></div><div> <br></div><div> 100 Garment Street<br></div><div> ------------------<br></div><div> <br></div><div> This is a community meeting room on the third floor of a condo. A<br></div><div> KWLUG member lives in the building and has agreed to host us each<br></div><div> month.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> The building is a 5-10 minute walk from Victoria and King in<br></div><div> Kitchener, so is close to downtown.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Capacity: 15 people comfortably, 20 at most. The space is pretty small<br></div><div> and there is furniture there we cannot move.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Availability: There is no formal booking system, so there is some<br></div><div> chance we could be displaced. However, the host thinks this is not<br></div><div> likely. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Reliability: We are reliant on the host to be present for every<br></div><div> meeting.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Access: The building is wheelchair accessible. To get to the meeting<br></div><div> room one has to be let in the door (there is controlled access) and go<br></div><div> up an elevator. It is not clear whether we can put up signs on meeting<br></div><div> nights, but the host thinks it may be possible.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Internet: There is public wifi, and possibly a second wifi we can use for<br></div><div> streaming. There is no wired internet available.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Parking: Parking onsite is expensive. There is an underground parking<br></div><div> garage which costs $2.50 for 30 minutes, so the average KWLUG attendee<br></div><div> can expect to pay $12.50 per meeting. There is a small amount of<br></div><div> on-street parking on Oak Street, and some parking available in<br></div><div> downtown Kitchener.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Transit: there is an LRT station at Victoria and King St.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Streaming/Equipment: We would have to provide a projector, and<br></div><div> whatever equipment we want to use for streaming. The host may be able<br></div><div> to store some equipment at their condo, but maybe not a lot.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> University of Waterloo Dana Porter Library<br></div><div> ------------------------------------------<br></div><div> <br></div><div> This is a classroom space in the Dana Porter library ("the sugar<br></div><div> cube") at the University of Waterloo. The specific space is LIB 329.<br></div><div> It is being offered by a KWLUG member who works at the university.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Capacity: 30+ people. It is a full classroom with row seating.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Availability: It should be fairly reliably available, although there<br></div><div> is no booking system. There are other classrooms we might be able to<br></div><div> use if we are displaced.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Reliability: Unclear. We are probably reliant on a UW employee to host<br></div><div> us. The proposing host has offered to host us, or help look for<br></div><div> replacements if they are unable to attend. There are a few other<br></div><div> people who work at UW. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Access: The building is wheelchair accessible. There are elevators to<br></div><div> the space. We will probably not be able to put up signs. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Internet: There is wifi available that requires a name and email to use.<br></div><div> People who are affiliated with a university can use Eduroam.<br></div><div> There may be some chance of getting our own SSID but this is unlikely.<br></div><div> Wired network for streaming might be possible, but is not arranged.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Parking: There is no free parking anywhere near UW. There are paid<br></div><div> parking lots for $5/evening.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Transit: there is an LRT station at the university. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Streaming/Equipment: There is a projector with HDMI input. We would<br></div><div> have to provide other streaming equipment, and carry it back and forth<br></div><div> to meetings.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Unlikely Locations<br></div><div> ------------------<br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### Community Hub at St John's the Evangelist<br></div><div> <br></div><div> This is not available Monday evenings. It could be a possibility if <br></div><div> we were willing to switch meeting nights.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### SDG Hub in Downtown Kitchener<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> This is a new space. The booking fee for the large room is $400/hour.<br></div><div> There is a smaller room for less, but they currently do not do evening<br></div><div> bookings.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### Public library spaces<br></div><div> <br></div><div> These may be available but not reliability. Prices vary from $50 at<br></div><div> some remote libraries in Kitchener (eg Forest Heights), to $150 for<br></div><div> two hours at the Waterloo Public Library.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### Churches, Public Schools<br></div><div> <br></div><div> In addition to a booking fee we would need to purchase liability<br></div><div> insurance. This may be possible but it seemed frustrating the last<br></div><div> time we looked because we are not a registered organization.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### KWartzlab<br></div><div> <br></div><div> The space is inaccessible (on the second floor) and there are no large<br></div><div> meeting spaces (maybe 15 people at most?). A KWartzlab member would<br></div><div> have to host.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Other Places to Investigate<br></div><div> ---------------------------<br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### Workhaus or other coworking spaces<br></div><div> <br></div><div> This would likely be expensive, but may be worth investigating.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### Restaurants<br></div><div> <br></div><div> This is likely not reliable, and there would be an expectation that<br></div><div> people purchase food and drink.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ### The Working Centre<br></div><div> <br></div><div> The Queen St Commons building has hosted a few events since the end of<br></div><div> the pandemic, but Paul no longer has strong connections there. The<br></div><div> space is also somewhat inaccessible, although there are ramps at the<br></div><div> back.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> St John's Kitchen is probably out of the question. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> -- <br></div><div> Events: <a href="https://feeds.off-topic.kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://feeds.off-topic.kwlug.org</a> <br></div><div> Housing: <a href="https://unionsd.coop" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://unionsd.coop</a><br></div><div> Blog: <a href="http://pnijjar.freeshell.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pnijjar.freeshell.org</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></body></html>