<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Thanks for the link Ron. The engineering that Framework is getting up to is amazing.<br></div><div>The custom display on the 16" is also a big upgrade from the 13", which is 60Hz sRGB:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>The Framework Laptop 16 has 2560x1600 resolution, a 100% DCI-P3 color gamut, variable refresh rate up to 165Hz, 9ms rise+fall time, 1500:1 contrast, and an unusually high 500 nit brightness. We’re also using the same matte top surface that is on the new matte display in the Framework Laptop 13. All of this means that instead of having to choose between a gaming panel (fast response and refresh rate), a creator panel (high resolution, wide color gamut, and high contrast), or a general productivity panel (high brightness and matte surface), you get a single panel that excels at all three.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They are teasing a future announcement about the new keyboard. We could get an extra 0.5mm of travel, or enough vertical height budget to support a trackpoint (considered not possible for the 13" due to space constraints).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Doug.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 10:18 PM, Ron Singh wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;">About that upcoming 16" version, the details of the chassis are almost pornographic...well, to me anyway.<br></div><div class="qt-gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;"><br></div><div><div><a href="https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---enclosure">https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---enclosure</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ron S.<br></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 9:35 PM Doug Moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org">doug@moens.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="qt-msg2042971302911208650"><div><u></u><br></div><div><div>Here's a ridiculously detailed review of the 2023 intel model with lots of tech specs and testing:<br></div><div><a href="https://www.notebookcheck.net/Core-i7-1370P-performance-debut-Framework-Laptop-13-5-13th-Gen-Intel-review.714563.0.html" target="_blank">https://www.notebookcheck.net/Core-i7-1370P-performance-debut-Framework-Laptop-13-5-13th-Gen-Intel-review.714563.0.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Overall quite strong, with weaknesses in the display, battery, fan noise.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It looks interesting. I would seriously consider it. Or maybe the future 16" model that is announced.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 6:10 PM, CrankyOldBugger wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt-m_2042971302911208650qt"><div dir="ltr">While I don't discredit the trackpoint users out there, I've always been a wireless mouse kinda guy. Never got used to trackpoints.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:06 PM Ron Singh <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma, sans-serif;">Love that thing to death, but a non-starter for me -- the lack of a trackpoint:-(<br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>Ron S.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:03 PM Khalid Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">A laptop that is designed with every component replaceable.<br></div><div dir="auto">That includes, ports, CPU, display, battery and more ... <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lggf2TXc" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/watch?v=vx-Lggf2TXc</a><br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div> To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div> with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-leave@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div>with the subject "unsubscribe", or email<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc-owner@kwlug.org</a> to contact a human being.<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>