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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Is most of the
fighting between Ukrainians who want to remain Ukrainians
and Ukrainians who want to separate and re-join Russia I
wonder?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">That is a narrative I
am hearing from a couple of colleagues.</div>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Or it is de-facto
Russian soldiers on Ukrainian lands fighting the Ukrainians
who wish to remain their own sovereign nation?</div>
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<p>Oh, man. This is an echo of a decade long propaganda by Russian
Federation. My Russian speaking relatives show signs of deep
hate for what Russian military has done. Most of those in
Ukraine who believed Russian propaganda now realize how fooled
they were.<br>
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<p>Reality is that all of top brass in government of a separatist
region, was all citizens of Russian Federation. No kidding. All
way back from 2014. Both citizens and residents of Russian
Federation.<br>
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<p>I intentionally highlight Russian Federation (RF), as apposed
to Russian. Firstly, it isn't easy to motivate Russians from RF
to go and kill Russians in the East of Ukraine. Secondly, even
in 2014 there was already a ton of video evidence of
nationalities from Siberian part of RF in tank brigades fighting
against Ukraine. These brigades couldn't possible originate from
Ukraine.</p>
<p>I think we are seeing a repeat of Nazi's propaganda, what it
did to people, in uniform and civilians, how society going to
heal from this, etc. I turned to think that some post-war German
rules were to excessive, but events in Belarus in 2020 and this
war now show that German approach is a starting point to deflect
memetic toxins that surely destroy the very foundation of
civilization.<br>
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<p>Recent observation is that one of propagandist on RF's TV moves
from a narrative "there are good Ukrainians held by nazis" to
"there are no good Ukrainians".<br>
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<div>This is not as sad as the deaths of so many civilians.</div>
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<p>There is no one in Ukraine untouched by this. I have a lot
of relatives, particularly in Mariupol. Those, who I was
able to contact, are alive, due to organization in hiding
from shelling. "Horrible" just doesn't start to describe
this.<br>
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<p>Wave of people in Europe starts to reach our shores. A
friend of mine picked his farther in Poland. He evacuated
with other family members from Kharkiv by land to Poland.
Many thanks to Polish and European people. Please, support
all these initiatives.<br>
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