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    <p>The only fault of ZFS is it enables one to lose data at the PB
      scale with little experience.<br>
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    <p>Even minimal monitoring of the array would have helped them to
      avoid this episode.</p>
    <p>Once you are using mechanical drives of more than a handful of
      TB, RAIDZ3 vdevs are something to consider. Rebuild times are long
      and bit error rates have not gone down in time.<br>
      The ServeTheHome RAID reliability calculator is a useful tool
      (that might make you rethink your array):<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.servethehome.com/raid-calculator/raid-reliability-calculator-simple-mttdl-model/">https://www.servethehome.com/raid-calculator/raid-reliability-calculator-simple-mttdl-model/</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-01-29 21:16, Jason Eckert
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I find it mind boggling that they have that much
        hardware, but were too lazy to spend time properly
        configuring/monitoring ZFS until it was too late.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 9:12
          PM Chris Frey <<a href="mailto:cdfrey@foursquare.net"
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          wrote:<br>
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          Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 08:36:43PM -0500, Mikalai Birukou via
          kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
          > <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npu7jkJk5nM"
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          I don't think that has much to do with ZFS :-)<br>
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          I was slightly puzzled at their first move to remove the
          drives that<br>
          were still working but had errors.  With that many failed
          disks in the<br>
          array, wouldn't it have been a better strategy to try to get
          everything<br>
          into a good state before replacing entire drives?<br>
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          - Chris<br>
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