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<p>I'll add that crown for power efficiency per work unit probably
also goes to apple's m1, away from amd. And this is a server-side
consideration.<br>
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<p>Link with power comparison:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m1-max-vs-amd-ryzen-threadripper-3960x">https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m1-max-vs-amd-ryzen-threadripper-3960x</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-11-06 7:53 p.m., Jason Eckert
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<div dir="ltr">I've been using a Mac Mini M1 (16GB RAM) for over a
month now to do curriculum development for a new program that
includes iOS development (so students will need to have an M1
Mac as we don't know how long before Apple ditches support for
Intel).
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<div>The platform is more impressive than I expected. I've been
using it as my main workstation to see what the student
experience will be going through each course in our new
program.</div>
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<div>Long story short, during a typical day I run a lot of
things and have been keeping them open to see if I could
impact the performance. I've been keeping a few web browsers
with plenty of tabs open, as well as Slack, VScode, Office,
Adobe CC and GitHub Desktop and it doesn't even hit the
system. Everything is unexplainably snappy, and both %user and
%sys remain low.</div>
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<div>ARM-compiled versions of Photoshop and Illustrator run
faster than on my i9 MBP, and Android apps also compile in
under a quarter of the time.</div>
<div>The VMs we make (ARM versions of Fedora and Ubuntu) run
lightning fast in UTM/Qemu (we don't use XAMPP since
students should know how to stage a proper Linux server
environment for what they need). Brew times are also much
faster than on Intel.</div>
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<div>I did explore Rosetta (running Intel apps), and the
experience is hit-and-miss. Some run fine (but not any faster
than Intel), while others run noticeably slower and have a big
hit on %sys and memory usage. One example of this is the
Microsoft Teams app (which doesn't have an ARM version for
macOS yet). Luckily, Microsoft Edge has a native ARM version
for macOS and you can run Microsoft Teams as an Edge app
flawlessly with all the features of the standalone app (even
during a video call, it barely impacts %user, %sys and
memory). The only things I run in Rosetta currently are
Logitech Options (for my mouse) and Adobe Bridge. Everything
else I installed already has a native ARM version for macOS. </div>
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<div>I've had to eat all of the Apple-ARM jokes I've made this
past year. Boo.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 6:40 PM
Doug Moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">doug@moens.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Yes.
I'm considering buying a new macbook once Asahi Linux has a
working GPU driver. The new thicker, heavier Macbooks with
more ports and better repairability have tweaked my interest.<br>
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On Sat, Nov 6, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Mikalai Birukou via
kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
> My developer got a new apple with m1. We ran version of
our soft with <br>
> scrypt KPDF algorithm in javascript, totally
non-optimized. We ran the <br>
> x64 version first, and it went like regular linux x64 on
x64 processor. <br>
> Then we tried m1 version on this m1 chip, and we didn't
really notice <br>
> that part of the program with the progress bar. Stark
difference. My <br>
> hope that whole RISC industry will pick lessons from m1.</blockquote>
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