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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-11-03 12:08 p.m., Mark Steffen
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<p>The PinePhone PRO looks like it has the specs to be a daily
driver, I don't think the original Pinephone will be anything
but a niche use case/testing device. It's just too slow for
real world use unless you have the patience of Job.<br>
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<p>Indeed, new one will be the one for consumers, for that level of
service.<br>
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<p>PinePhone though, is perfect for developers. Developer must
see/test owns apps on sub-par hardware. Its like training with
weights.<br>
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<p>By the way, note that
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/">https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-beta-edition-with-convergence-package/</a>
still says "Beta Edition PinePhones are aimed solely at early
adopters. More specifically, only intend for these units to find
their way into the hands of users with extensive Linux
experience."</p>
<p>In the last month I have some free and google free android on
which I test android app. Flushing different OS' as easy as
starting different linux/bsd OS' is refreshing. No fear of
bricking anything. Very liberating.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-11-03 12:00 p.m., Khalid
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:25 AM Paul Nijjar via
kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So what I am hearing is
that a Pinephone is not reliable as a daily<br>
phone yet, regardless of the distro you use?<br>
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The Pine64 people are releasing a lot of products! It
looks like<br>
software support is lagging behind, though.<br>
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That has been a common trend in all the China/Taiwan/Korea
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<div class="gmail_quote">decade or so.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">The various Raspberry Pi clones are
always better hardware wise, but always lag when</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">it comes to software. They release an
almost working distro, and it never gets updated.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Then they release a better board,
with newer software and that stagnates too. <br>
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