<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">There is absolutely a ton of life left in these older boxes and laptops.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">My office PC(which I use only 2 times a week) still rocks a 2008-era SuperMicro mobo and a Q6700 CPU(!) It has 8G of RAM, an SSDĀ and runs W10 quite fine.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">To this day, I still use a fleet of Tinkpads, X220, X201, T520, T420s for fin work, computer work, personal stuff, never had a reason to say anything is slow. Why do this? It's all about that classic Thinkpad keyboard. The 2nd gen TP units were the last to get that keyboard, may they live for the next 11 years when I decide to exit the IT and fin world.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Perversely, I use a newly-acquired P17 behemoth for doing nothing more than Zoom/Skype meets this far, but it's only been 6 weeks. The keyboard is...OK, I guess.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron S.<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:36 AM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A couple of days ago I have changed my office box from E3 server board <br>
to AMD Phenom II. I am going retro :) This was my first own completely <br>
built desktop. Before that I was just a non-Apple laptop consumer. And <br>
before that I just didn't own those 386 and Pentium boxes.<br>
<br>
AMD Phenom is retro for me. Half PCI slots are PCI. Five (?) years back <br>
I bought probably the last retail Gigabit NIC for PCI.<br>
<br>
These several days I am doing some Android development, and device <br>
emulator has a black screen. It turns out, Android studio emulator for <br>
devices uses ssse3 cpu instruction that isn't yet present in AMD Phenom.<br>
<br>
So, for a time being, split keyboard and portrait oriented screens are <br>
connected to Lenovo ThinkPad E540 with i7-4702MQ CPU.<br>
<br>
Phenom: 42nm<br>
<br>
ThinkPad i7: 22nm<br>
<br>
Threadripper: 7nm<br>
<br>
42 is retro now.<br>
<br>
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