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    And, according to their report, Seagate don't come out ahead. :-)<br>
    --William<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/21 8:36 PM, CrankyOldBugger
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        <div>I used to be a WD fan, but lately I've had better luck with
          Seagate..  honestly, it's a model-by-model thing.</div>
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        <div>Check out the Backblaze report.  They keep track of their
          drives failure rates and publish it yearly:   <a
href="https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-for-2020/"
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 20:16,
          William Park via kwlug-disc <<a
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          <div> <font face="Bitstream Charter">From my readings, <br>
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              <li><font face="Bitstream Charter">WD Red is SMR, but <br>
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              <li><font face="Bitstream Charter">WD Red Plus and Red Pro
                  are CMR.</font></li>
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            <p><font face="Bitstream Charter">--William</font><br>
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            <div>On 3/7/21 7:44 PM, Nickle, Brian wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">One of the things I have been hearing
                about is to stay away from Shingled media recording
                (SMR) disk drives.  Apparently they perform poorly in
                raid configurations.  Unfortunately not all vendors
                indicate if the hard drive is SMR or not.
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Mar. 7, 2021,
                  6:46 p.m. Ron Singh, <<a
                    href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Live by the
                      ABS rule -- A)nything B)ut S)eagate. WD's failure
                      rate is much better than Seagates. HGST fails the
                      least. <br>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">These days,
                      WD owns the HGST HDD lines, renamed as WD Red Pro.
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I run an
                      8-drive QNAP NAS box with 8 pcs of 4TB HGST
                      drives, slow ones, 5200-ish RPM, SAF, but
                      low-power. I never let them spin down and have not
                      had a failure since they have been in use since
                      2013.</div>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Today's 4TB
                      7200RPM WD RED PRO stuff:<br>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><a
href="https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX"
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                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX</a></div>
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                      style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We have tons
                      of these 4TB, 8TB and 10TB in service, never had
                      one go bad in Raid5/Raid6/Raid50 in QNAP and
                      Synology NAS boxes.<br>
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                              <div>Thanks,<br>
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                                Ron S.<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7,
                      2021 at 6:31 PM William Park via kwlug-disc <<a
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                      <div> <font face="Bitstream Charter">Hi,<br>
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                          2 of my harddisks are failing, so I need to
                          buy something fairly soon.  Has Seagate
                          improved their quality?  Or, should I go with
                          Western Digital as I usually do?<br>
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