<div dir="ltr">It's generally a good idea to mix different drive models in your NAS. All the drives are going to die eventually, but at least not at the same time. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:08 PM Jason Eckert <<a href="mailto:jason.eckert@gmail.com">jason.eckert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">WD drives were my go-to for many years, but I've had a lot of failures with them in recent years for some reason.<div>So I've switched to Seagate IronWolf (8TB, CMR) and they've been rock solid so far.</div><div>Just my two cents...</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:22 PM William Park via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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And, according to their report, Seagate don't come out ahead. :-)<br>
--William<br>
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<div>On 3/7/21 8:36 PM, CrankyOldBugger
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<div>I used to be a WD fan, but lately I've had better luck with
Seagate.. honestly, it's a model-by-model thing.</div>
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<div>Check out the Backblaze report. They keep track of their
drives failure rates and publish it yearly: <a href="https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-for-2020/" target="_blank">https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-for-2020/</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 20:16,
William Park via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>
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<div> <font face="Bitstream Charter">From my readings, <br>
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<ul>
<li><font face="Bitstream Charter">WD Red is SMR, but <br>
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<li><font face="Bitstream Charter">WD Red Plus and Red Pro
are CMR.</font></li>
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<p><font face="Bitstream Charter">--William</font><br>
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<div>On 3/7/21 7:44 PM, Nickle, Brian wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">One of the things I have been hearing
about is to stay away from Shingled media recording
(SMR) disk drives. Apparently they perform poorly in
raid configurations. Unfortunately not all vendors
indicate if the hard drive is SMR or not.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Mar. 7, 2021,
6:46 p.m. Ron Singh, <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Live by the
ABS rule -- A)nything B)ut S)eagate. WD's failure
rate is much better than Seagates. HGST fails the
least. <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">These days,
WD owns the HGST HDD lines, renamed as WD Red Pro.
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I run an
8-drive QNAP NAS box with 8 pcs of 4TB HGST
drives, slow ones, 5200-ish RPM, SAF, but
low-power. I never let them spin down and have not
had a failure since they have been in use since
2013.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Today's 4TB
7200RPM WD RED PRO stuff:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><a href="https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We have tons
of these 4TB, 8TB and 10TB in service, never had
one go bad in Raid5/Raid6/Raid50 in QNAP and
Synology NAS boxes.<br>
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<div>Thanks,<br>
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Ron S.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7,
2021 at 6:31 PM William Park via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>
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<div> <font face="Bitstream Charter">Hi,<br>
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2 of my harddisks are failing, so I need to
buy something fairly soon. Has Seagate
improved their quality? Or, should I go with
Western Digital as I usually do?<br>
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