<div dir="ltr"><div>I used to be a WD fan, but lately I've had better luck with Seagate..  honestly, it's a model-by-model thing.</div><div><br></div><div>Check out the Backblaze report.  They keep track of their drives failure rates and publish it yearly:   <a href="https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-for-2020/">https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-for-2020/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 at 20:16, William Park via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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        stay away from Shingled media recording (SMR) disk drives. 
        Apparently they perform poorly in raid configurations. 
        Unfortunately not all vendors indicate if the hard drive is SMR
        or not.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Mar. 7, 2021, 6:46
          p.m. Ron Singh, <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Live by the ABS rule
              -- A)nything B)ut S)eagate. WD's failure rate is much
              better than Seagates. HGST fails the least. <br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">These days, WD owns
              the HGST HDD lines, renamed as WD Red Pro. <br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I run an 8-drive
              QNAP NAS box with 8 pcs of 4TB HGST drives, slow ones,
              5200-ish RPM, SAF, but low-power. I never let them spin
              down and have not had a failure since they have been in
              use since 2013.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Today's 4TB 7200RPM
              WD RED PRO stuff:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><a href="https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-ca/products/internal-drives/wd-red-pro-sata-hdd#WD4003FFBX</a></div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We have tons of
              these 4TB, 8TB and 10TB in service, never had one go bad
              in Raid5/Raid6/Raid50 in QNAP and Synology NAS boxes.<br>
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                        Ron S.<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at
              6:31 PM William Park via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>
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              <div> <font face="Bitstream Charter">Hi,<br>
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                  2 of my harddisks are failing, so I need to buy
                  something fairly soon.  Has Seagate improved their
                  quality?  Or, should I go with Western Digital as I
                  usually do?<br>
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