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<p>Curious to see how Scientific Linux (CERN/FNAL) deals with this.<br>
Historically, they compiled their own SL in parallel with CentOS
but decided to go with CentOS 8 as a base going forward.<br>
I expect they will go back to their previous model as a rolling
distro is not appropriate for most scientific use cases.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/9/20 12:56 PM, Raymond Chen
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The post on itsfoss clears a lot of my confusion on
this. Thank you, Bob.
<div>My team used CentOS as the base of our docker images when
we started a project. But we switched to Ubuntu because CentOS
didn't offer patches as frequently as Ubuntu did. The security
scanning kept spitting a lot of warnings. With Ubuntu it's
much easier, just run 'apt-get upgrade' periodically. But now
CentOS Stream is more like Ubuntu, right? 😀 </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:35
AM Bob Jonkman <<a href="mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">bjonkman@sobac.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There's
already a new fork of RHEL made by the person who started <br>
CentOS, called Rocky Linux.<br>
<br>
And lots of other concerns, including the short-circuiting of
CentOS <br>
Linux 8 from It's FOSS:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://itsfoss.com/centos-stream-fiasco/</a><br>
<br>
--Bob.<br>
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On 2020-12-08 7:27 p.m., Digimer wrote:<br>
> The key here is "and are concerned that CentOS Stream
will not meet your<br>
> needs".<br>
> <br>
> I suspect the majority of people this applies to should
already be on a<br>
> commercially supported distro.<br>
> <br>
> Personally, we're heavily vested in CentOS and RHEL, and
I am not<br>
> worried about this change. CentOS will become where they
do final<br>
> testing of patches and updates before going into RHEL
proper, giving an<br>
> extra buffer to RHEL itself. I don't see things
fundamentally changing<br>
> for CentOS users.<br>
> <br>
> If anything, CentOS users will get patches first... So
while one hand<br>
> may take, another gives.<br>
> <br>
> digimer<br>
> <br>
> On 2020-12-08 5:31 p.m., Ron Singh wrote:<br>
>> I wonder if they are essentially pushing CentOS users
with production<br>
>> machines to get all kinds of licenced up with RedHat?<br>
>><br>
>> As per their words --<br>
>> "If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production
environment, and are<br>
>> concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your
needs,<br>
>> we encourage you to contact Red Hat about options."<br>
>><br>
>> This comes across as, "hey you freeloaders, get over
here and pay up!".<br>
>> Yeah? No?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Ron S.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:21 PM CrankyOldBugger<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> This announcement from CentOS is a bit
troubling, if I'm reading it<br>
>> correctly...<br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-December/048208.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-December/048208.html</a><br>
>> <<a
href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-December/048208.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2020-December/048208.html</a>><br>
>><br>
>> To quote:<br>
>><br>
>> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS
Stream, and over the next<br>
>> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux,
the rebuild of Red Hat<br>
>> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which
tracks just ahead of a<br>
>> current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a
rebuild of RHEL 8, will end<br>
>> at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues
after that date, serving as<br>
>> the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux.<br>
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