<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>If I want to do some web browsing with increased privacy, I use TOR. This saves me the trouble of deciding which VPN provider to trust (I have no real objective basis for trusting one over another).</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Aug 6, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Chris Craig wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I'm somewhat surprised at the popularity of PIA here. Doing a web search
for "PIA vs NordVPN" brings up some potentially disturbing
information...<br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 at 09:31, Yas Adem <<a href="mailto:yadem.ethio@gmail.com">yadem.ethio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>Thanks guys. So far PIA seems to the choice. I will take look and see their pricing.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards<br></div><div dir="auto">Yasin<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 9:59 PM Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc, <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div>Oh man. That "publicly accessible database" was Elasticsearch, which<br></div><div> has its advantages but can be kind of a tire fire when it comes to<br></div><div> security. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> I hope nobody hacks into our network and discovers our instance, or we<br></div><div> could end up in The Register too.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> - Paul<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:08:52PM -0400, Chris Irwin wrote:<br></div><div> > Also using PIA here, via their openvpn scripts. Integrates nicely with the<br></div><div> > systemd openvpn unit (for a headless machine) and NetworkManager (for my<br></div><div> > laptop if I need it)<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > I believe they also have wireguard support now as well, though I haven't<br></div><div> > looked into that personally.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > There's a white-label VPN provider that recently got "hacked", by which<br></div><div> > their logs (that they "do not" keep) were kept in an unsecured, publicly<br></div><div> > accessible database. They were marketed under a number of different brands.<br></div><div> > You'll probably want to make sure you don't pick one of thsoe, at least.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/17/ufo_vpn_database/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/17/ufo_vpn_database/</a><br></div><div> > <br></div><div> <br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br></div></blockquote></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>kwlug-disc mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a><br></div><div><a href="https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org">https://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>