<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:39 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
b) Let's also note that Swiss government did in fact invested or even <br>
granted Protonmail sizable chunk. I can't imagine any friction for <br>
spooks from here to talk to spooks there, who may have a friendly ear in <br>
a company, especially, when all legalities are probably settled, to <br>
provide info about "who that person is talking to who" (capture of <br>
metadata, or surveillance).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Reminds me of Crypto AG, which made encryption machines for use by countries</div><div>from the 60s onwards. <br></div><div><br></div><div>They had an agreement with the CIA, as well as BND, the German equivalent, <br></div><div>to weaken their encryption so that they can spy on various countries. <br></div><div><br></div><div>First in 2015<br></div><div><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33676028">https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33676028</a></div><div><br></div><div>Then Feb 2020<br></div><div><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51467536">https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51467536</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/</a></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Effect on Swiss neutrality reputation<br><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856">https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51487856</a></div></div>