<div dir="ltr"><div>Sibername.com used to allow you to pay via money order. They are based in Ottawa.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, if you are looking at paying for email hosting and are worried about privacy. I would seriously consider not hosting in Canada.</div><div><br></div><div>Swiss privacy laws (where Protonmail is based) are much tighter than Canada and they are outside of any Canadian jurisdiction. Meaning that any warrant (for whatever reason) would not do a single thing. Protonmail also as a plan that includes both email hosting and VPN services.</div><div><br></div><div>The only reason that I haven't made that jump myself? I too am lazy.</div><div><br></div><div>Benjamin<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 5:01 PM Andrew Sullivan Cant <<a href="mailto:acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca">acant@alumni.uwaterloo.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Paul,<br>
<br>
Nice list! Always good to see the options repeated.<br>
<br>
I already use a bunch of the things you suggestion. (i.e., DuckDuckGo,<br>
Firefox, OpenStreetMap)<br>
<br>
Gmail is still my email service, because I am lazy, but I did more to<br>
using my own domain in front of it a few year ago. At least I am not<br>
promoting gmail, and I can switch services more easily in the future.<br>
(Fastmail and protonmail seem interesting, but I would kind of list<br>
something that is in Canada.)<br>
Buuuut, I don't know anyway to do this without have to use a credit card<br>
to pay for domain name.<br>
<br>
For anyone looking to use OpenStreetMas for navigation I have had good<br>
success with 2 apps:<br>
* Maps.me <<a href="https://maps.me/en/download/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://maps.me/en/download/</a>><br>
* OsmAnd <<a href="https://osmand.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://osmand.net/</a>><br>
<br>
They are both open source, and OsmAnd can also be used to contribute<br>
back to OSM.<br>
<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2020-04-19 12:07 a.m., Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
> Back in the Before Times I initiated a conversation about how to go<br>
> Google-free. In thinking more about it I decided Google should not be<br>
> the only target, and furthermore my list was turning into a blog post<br>
> and not a mailing list entry. So I made it a blog post:<br>
> <a href="http://pnijjar.freeshell.org/2020/faang-free/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pnijjar.freeshell.org/2020/faang-free/</a><br>
> <br>
> I am sure you have better suggestions than I do. Also I am almost<br>
> certainly missing categories (AWS? Ordering from Amazon?). I wrote<br>
> this response in the Before Times, and boy does it seem quaint now<br>
> (cash? I wanted to pay for things in cash?) but I point to it here in<br>
> the spirit of history (and I guess unethical self promotion). <br>
> <br>
> - Paul<br>
> <br>
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