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<p>Not surprising about BTRFS given its many ups and downs. <br>
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<p>Just not something I would put others' important data on.</p>
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<p>That said, I make use of BTRFS snapshotting every day in a
production research environment.</p>
<p>The integration with the Ubuntu installer makes it a no-brainer
to use.</p>
<p>Currently looking to migrate these configurations to ZFS.</p>
<p>Apparently Ubuntu is working to make this easy in the future:</p>
<p><a
href="https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ZFS-GRUB-More-Bits-April-Ubuntu">https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ZFS-GRUB-More-Bits-April-Ubuntu</a></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/19 9:42 AM, Jeff Smith wrote:<br>
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Just found out two minutes ago that BTRFS is being dropped by
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
kwlug-disc <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org"><kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org></a> on behalf of
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bob+kwlug@softscape.ca">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bob+kwlug@softscape.ca"><bob+kwlug@softscape.ca></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 May 2019 16:53<br>
<b>To:</b> 'KWLUG discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup
files over the network</font>
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<div class="PlainText">ZFS for work, BTRFS for home. <br>
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If I am not mistaken, btrfs' ability to add and remove
disks from storage pools makes it a good choice for
working with eclectic spindles. Something I wouldn't do
at work, but definitely at home where "found" hardware
rules the day.<br>
<br>
BB<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: kwlug-disc [<a
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On Behalf Of<br>
> jason.eckert<br>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:14 PM<br>
> To: KWLUG discussion<br>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup
files over the network<br>
> <br>
> I'll openly admit that I'm a ZFS snob - I've always
regarded BTRFS as<br>
> decaf ZFS ;-)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Samsung device running Android
(basically Linux in drag)<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: CrankyOldBugger
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com"><crankyoldbugger@gmail.com></a><br>
> Date: 2019-05-23 20:07 (GMT-05:00)<br>
> To: KWLUG discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org"><kwlug-disc@kwlug.org></a><br>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup
files over the network<br>
> <br>
> We looked at BTRFS at work a few months ago and
decided that it wasn't<br>
> ready for prime time yet. I wonder if it's
improved since then? We're<br>
> happy with ext4 and LVM.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 19:08,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bob+kwlug@softscape.ca">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca</a>>
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bob+kwlug@softscape.ca">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca"
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> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Nothing to add to this but just wanted to
give a<br>
> <br>
> +1<br>
> <br>
> For use of BTRFS. Love that FS.<br>
> <br>
> BB<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: kwlug-disc [<a
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moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org</a>]
On Behalf<br>
> Of Remi<br>
> > Gauvin<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:57 PM<br>
> > To: KWLUG discussion<br>
> > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring
large backup files over the<br>
> network<br>
> ><br>
> > On 2019-05-23 4:40 p.m., Paul Nijjar
via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > >><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hrm. That brings to mind the
(non-FLOSS) Windows Subsystem for<br>
> Linux.<br>
> > > The problem with many of these
"compile Linux tools on Windows"<br>
> is<br>
> > > that they are often limited to
32-bit (although I am not sure<br>
> whether<br>
> > > MobaXterm is). That actually has
caused problems for me in my<br>
> backups<br>
> > > when I have tried to use various
Rsync for Windows tools in the<br>
> past.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But if I install Linux in Windows
using WSL, then the 64 bit<br>
> versions<br>
> > > of these tools might be available,
and then maybe NTFS is not<br>
> going to<br>
> > > be the bottleneck any more.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > I just use Cygwin for this purpose.
Neither NTFS nor 32-bitness<br>
> are a<br>
> > problem, and I have no idea why you
think they would be. I do<br>
> not,<br>
> > however, preserve the permissions /
Ownership of the Windows host<br>
> to the<br>
> > backup.<br>
> ><br>
> > Sample rsync:<br>
> ><br>
> > (Note: The --inplace is because I'm
using BTRFS and snapshots on<br>
> the<br>
> > backup side. You would not use it
otherwise.)\<br>
> ><br>
> > Note2: I have encountered problems with
rsync compression and some<br>
> multi<br>
> > GB files. Compression is instead
enabled in the ssh_config if<br>
> sending<br>
> > over a slow link.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > /usr/bin/rsync \<br>
> > -a --no-o --no-g --no-p
--chmod=ugo=rwX --info=STATS \<br>
> > --inplace --exclude='.snapshots'
--delete \<br>
> > /nas/ \<br>
> > destination_host:/data/nas/<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
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