<div dir="ltr">Maybe they thought including butter FS would be a slippery slope..... [insert groans here]</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:43 AM Jeff Smith <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Just found out two minutes ago that BTRFS is being dropped by both RHEL and GParted:</div>
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#No_longer_supported" id="gmail-m_-294130063234141581LPNoLP894512" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#No_longer_supported</a></div>
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<a href="https://news.softpedia.com/news/gparted-open-source-partition-editor-reaches-1-0-milestone-after-almost-15-years-526221.shtml" id="gmail-m_-294130063234141581LPNoLP341177" target="_blank">https://news.softpedia.com/news/gparted-open-source-partition-editor-reaches-1-0-milestone-after-almost-15-years-526221.shtml</a></div>
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<div id="gmail-m_-294130063234141581divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 29 May 2019 16:53<br>
<b>To:</b> 'KWLUG discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network</font>
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<div class="gmail-m_-294130063234141581PlainText">ZFS for work, BTRFS for home. <br>
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If I am not mistaken, btrfs' ability to add and remove disks from storage pools makes it a good choice for working with eclectic spindles. Something I wouldn't do at work, but definitely at home where "found" hardware rules the day.<br>
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BB<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: kwlug-disc [<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org" target="_blank">mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> jason.eckert<br>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:14 PM<br>
> To: KWLUG discussion<br>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network<br>
> <br>
> I'll openly admit that I'm a ZFS snob - I've always regarded BTRFS as<br>
> decaf ZFS ;-)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sent from my Samsung device running Android (basically Linux in drag)<br>
> <br>
> -------- Original message --------<br>
> From: CrankyOldBugger <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: 2019-05-23 20:07 (GMT-05:00)<br>
> To: KWLUG discussion <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the network<br>
> <br>
> We looked at BTRFS at work a few months ago and decided that it wasn't<br>
> ready for prime time yet. I wonder if it's improved since then? We're<br>
> happy with ext4 and LVM.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 19:08, <a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca</a>> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">bob+kwlug@softscape.ca</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca" target="_blank">mailto:bob%2Bkwlug@softscape.ca</a>> > wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Nothing to add to this but just wanted to give a<br>
> <br>
> +1<br>
> <br>
> For use of BTRFS. Love that FS.<br>
> <br>
> BB<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: kwlug-disc [<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org" target="_blank">mailto:kwlug-disc-bounces@kwlug.org</a>] On Behalf<br>
> Of Remi<br>
> > Gauvin<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:57 PM<br>
> > To: KWLUG discussion<br>
> > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Transferring large backup files over the<br>
> network<br>
> ><br>
> > On 2019-05-23 4:40 p.m., Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > >><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hrm. That brings to mind the (non-FLOSS) Windows Subsystem for<br>
> Linux.<br>
> > > The problem with many of these "compile Linux tools on Windows"<br>
> is<br>
> > > that they are often limited to 32-bit (although I am not sure<br>
> whether<br>
> > > MobaXterm is). That actually has caused problems for me in my<br>
> backups<br>
> > > when I have tried to use various Rsync for Windows tools in the<br>
> past.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But if I install Linux in Windows using WSL, then the 64 bit<br>
> versions<br>
> > > of these tools might be available, and then maybe NTFS is not<br>
> going to<br>
> > > be the bottleneck any more.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > I just use Cygwin for this purpose. Neither NTFS nor 32-bitness<br>
> are a<br>
> > problem, and I have no idea why you think they would be. I do<br>
> not,<br>
> > however, preserve the permissions / Ownership of the Windows host<br>
> to the<br>
> > backup.<br>
> ><br>
> > Sample rsync:<br>
> ><br>
> > (Note: The --inplace is because I'm using BTRFS and snapshots on<br>
> the<br>
> > backup side. You would not use it otherwise.)\<br>
> ><br>
> > Note2: I have encountered problems with rsync compression and some<br>
> multi<br>
> > GB files. Compression is instead enabled in the ssh_config if<br>
> sending<br>
> > over a slow link.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > /usr/bin/rsync \<br>
> > -a --no-o --no-g --no-p --chmod=ugo=rwX --info=STATS \<br>
> > --inplace --exclude='.snapshots' --delete \<br>
> > /nas/ \<br>
> > destination_host:/data/nas/<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <br>
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