<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Hah! "cromulent", had no idea of what it meant, had to wiki it. I should watch TV(The Simpsons).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Sorry, I am not helping...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 4:32 PM Paul Nijjar <<a href="mailto:pnijjar@uwaterloo.ca">pnijjar@uwaterloo.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Holy cow. The Yahoo server my announcement went out is also on a<br>
blacklist: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://sonic312-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sonic312-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com</a> [66.163.191.205]<br>
<br>
Good grief. Does this mean a bunch of mail I am sending out is not<br>
getting to the senders? That would explain a few things that happened<br>
this week. <br>
<br>
I am not sure this is the entire problem, however. I am also not<br>
RECEIVING mail on kwlug-disc from perfectly cromulent accounts,<br>
including (it seems) the entire thread about Xubuntu 32-bit CD-ROMs.<br>
<br>
This is why we can't have federated things.<br>
<br>
- Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 12:41:07PM -0400, Jon Thiele wrote:<br>
> Paul - I had a similar issue on Friday. I found out that the server<br>
> at 74.6.133.126<br>
> ( <a href="http://sonic313.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sonic313.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com</a> ) got on a blacklist. It was also<br>
> about 15 to 20 minutes behind in delivering mail. Ugly. Not sure if<br>
> this is exactly your issue but worth a look...<br>
> <br>
> <<a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail</a>><br>
> Virus-free.<br>
> <a href="http://www.avast.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.avast.com</a><br>
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> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 11:59 AM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > About securing email. May be related to current glitches, may be not.<br>
> ><br>
> > I have SPF set pointing to servers that server <a href="http://3nsoft.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">3nsoft.com</a>'s mail. And I<br>
> > don't have DMARC set. Message forwarding is broken in this setting. I'll<br>
> > send an email to some university, and get a reply with someone's<br>
> > personal gmail address in an error response.<br>
> ><br>
> > My provider 101domains (good for domains) suggested an upgrade fo me to<br>
> > have DMARC. Or, was I talking to wrong agent?<br>
> ><br>
> > But without a modicum of authenticity, which SPF gives, spammers flood<br>
> > everyone else with messages coming supposedly from your servers.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 2019-03-29 11:20 p.m., Paul Nijjar wrote:<br>
> > > What's going on?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Yahoo: I am getting nothing. I missed a bunch of messages<br>
> > > yesterday.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On this account (UW, which I think is Microsoft): I got Khalid's<br>
> > > response, but not Mikalai's.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > If you want to see whether you missed messages, you can see the list<br>
> > > Mailman thinks it knows about here:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > <a href="https://kwlug.org/mailman/private/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/2019-March/thread.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://kwlug.org/mailman/private/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/2019-March/thread.html</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Maybe this will fix itself over the next couple of days. I hope so?<br>
> > > These hiccups happen.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - Paul<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05:12PM -0400, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:<br>
> > >> I got it, time stamped 5:58 pm.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Not using a Yahoo address, but rather a Gmail one.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:01 PM Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <<br>
> > >> <a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >>> Nothing around 6pm, on non-yahoo, non-gmail address.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> On 2019-03-29 10:42 p.m., Paul Nijjar wrote:<br>
> > >>>> (Sending from a non-Yahoo address)<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Has anybody been experiencing weirdness with the mailing list over the<br>
> > >>>> past couple of days? I have been sending messages to the lists and not<br>
> > >>>> getting a copy.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> Did everybody (particularly those with Yahoo! addresses) who is<br>
> > >>>> subscribed to kwlug-announce get the meeting announcement I sent out<br>
> > >>>> this evening around 6pm?<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> I will be sending a few test messages back and forth to see whether I<br>
> > >>>> get them. This may be a temporary thing or Yahoo! may be breaking<br>
> > >>>> things again.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> - Paul<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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> > >>>><br>
> > >>> --<br>
> > >>> Mikalai Birukou<br>
> > >>> CEO | 3NSoft Inc.<br>
> > >>><br>
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> > >>><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> --<br>
> > >> Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>
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