<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Lori, is right: SSD and NVMe prices are really good right now. And Black Friday is just around the corner so keep an eye out for sales.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'm a big fan of M.2 drives right on the motherboard. My main desktop has two slots, currently occupied by a Crucial 1TB M.2 and the other a Crucial 512GB M.2. My Intel NUC has a 500GB nvme drive. And much to my surprise, my (maybe) six years old Lenovo laptop came with a 16GB M.2 which, at the time when I bought it I thought it was a soldered-on chip so I never bothered with it. When I recently found out that it was an M.2 I immediately swapped it out for a 500GB Samsung SSD 860. The laptop is running way faster now on the SSD instead of the 5400rpm HDD.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>The M.2's are so much easier to work with (hardware-wise) as you don't have to muck around with cables or power supplies or docking bays or whatever. You just need one tiny screw. Word of advice, though, the M.2's are often mounted at a bit of an angle, which gives them a bit of a spring effect, so be sure to hold it down with your thumb before you loosen the screw or you will get to spend the next four hours on your hands and knees looking for said screw... Trust me, I know!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Sorry,
Khalid, if my rant on M.2 doesn't help you with your older laptop, but it's definitely something to keep in mind when you're ready to buy a new one.</div><div><br>
</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 10:20, L.D. Paniak <<a href="mailto:ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com">ldpaniak@fourpisolutions.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The prices at Newegg for Samsung SSDs are quite amazing:<br>
<a class="m_439422425413441154moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147669" target="_blank">https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147669</a><br>
2TB SSD for $500?<br>
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Similarly for NVMe flash:<br>
<a class="m_439422425413441154moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147691" target="_blank">https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147691</a><br>
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Maybe the home all-flash array is not that far off after all!<br>
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-Lori<br>
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<div class="m_439422425413441154moz-cite-prefix">On 11/8/18 09:43, CrankyOldBugger
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<div>Ditto on the EVOs.. pretty solid drives. I've had a few,
with no issues.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 09:41, Benjamin Tompkins
<<a href="mailto:bjtompkins@gmail.com" target="_blank">bjtompkins@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree with Ron on this one. You pretty much
can't go wrong with any of the Samsung EVO/PRO SSDs. I
personally have a couple of the 850 and 960s in use at home.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:35 AM Ron Singh <<a href="mailto:ronsingh149@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronsingh149@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Sorry to hear of
your SSD woes Khalid, must be a ton of read retries
causing the slow copy?<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We use a ton of
Samsung 860 Pro and EVO in my world for
laptops/workstations and cache devices on NAS units.
The 860 PRO with it's LMC tech is likely overkill for
an end-user situation and the prices are brutal.<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The 860 EVO is
the perfect blend of decent pricing and unparalleled
reliability compared to it's peers in the TLC realm.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We have used
Intel, Sandisk, Crucial/Micron, and Samsung since
about 2009 and the Samsung are the ones holding up
best, only about 4-5 failures in 9 years within a
population of at least 3000 units in play. The Intel
units were the worse.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
The prices online at at CC are remarkably low for
Samsung and a fair number of SSDs out there, hard to
go wrong.<br>
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<div>Thanks,<br>
<br>
Ron Singh<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:25 PM Khalid
Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>So, the excepted happened and a laptop with
an SSD failed. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>The laptop itself is OK, despite its age, but
the SSD (added in the past few years), failed.</div>
<div>First, it was a SMART error like this:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Offline
uncorrectable sectors<br>
<br>
Device info:<br>
HP SSD S700 120GB, S/N:xxxx, FW:Q0330B1, 120 GB</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Then it was 3 sectors, and yesterday it was
33 sectors.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I started copying the data off of the SSD to
an external USB disk. It is working, but it is
very slow. <br>
</div>
<div>The shell command is slow when I press tab
for command completion. Most commands time out
(systemd reports several timeouts). The disk is
mounted read only.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The copying is now a day and a half for a
only a few tens of GB. The target disk flickers
once every minute or so.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Why is this copying too slow?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Another question is what replacement SSD
should I get. Ron Singh posted a while back
about Samsung EVO 860, which are still on sale
at Canada Computers and BestBuy (ends tomorrow),
e.g.</div>
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</div>
<div><a href="https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1088&item_id=120021" target="_blank">https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1088&item_id=120021</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Are these still a good value? Or are there
alternatives?<br>
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<div>-- <br>
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<div>Khalid M. Baheyeldin<br>
<a href="http://2bits.com" target="_blank">2bits.com</a>,
Inc.<br>
Fast Reliable Drupal<br>
Drupal optimization, development,
customization and consulting.<br>
Simplicity is prerequisite for
reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra<br>
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
-- anonymous<br>
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