<div dir="ltr">That's a sad story, but not uncommon, regrettably.<div><br></div><div>I suppose now is a time to mention that another local company is actually doing very well: Opentext. We are just coming off of a great year and I can tell you that the employee stock options program is great. The best I've ever seen, in fact. And we're always hiring (shameless self-plug here)... Have a look at <a href="https://opentextats.avature.net/careers/SearchJobs">https://opentextats.avature.net/careers/SearchJobs</a> and if any of the members of KWLUG see something they like, let me know and I'll refer you in. (yes, they also have a great referral program)...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 July 2018 at 11:57, Khalid Baheyeldin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A friend of mine got a job early at RIM, before they even made phones.<br>
<br>
He had a lot of stock options. When his options vested, his financial advisor<br>
told him he should sell his options, and pay the house and other debts (standard<br>
advice really). He sold them very cheap, at a profit, but still at a<br>
very low price.<br>
<br>
The employees that came in after him had options too, but they<br>
have not vested when he was selling his.<br>
<br>
When the stock shot sky high, he had no options to sell anymore. Those who came<br>
in after him were millionaires and never had to work again. He who heeded the<br>
standard advice ended up with nothing more than paying his house a few years<br>
early.<br>
<br>
He was eventually laid off.<br>
<br>
Such is the lottery of stock options ... and right place right time.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:49 AM, CrankyOldBugger<br>
<<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Well, the story of RIM is legendary, but here's the truth: when I worked<br>
> there in support, stock prices were $160. Then I left to take another job,<br>
> and the stock price shot through the floor to unheard-of lows. Coincidence?<br>
> We may never know...<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 16 July 2018 at 11:39, Khalid Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com">kb@2bits.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Business, local or not, deserve criticism when they have practices that<br>
>> warrant<br>
>> it. Being local does not give a business immunity from criticism just<br>
>> because they<br>
>> are local, or there is a lot of nostalgia for them.<br>
>><br>
>> The big example is RIM/Blackberry: they had a large majority of the smart<br>
>> phone market, but became overconfident, arrogant, complacent and oblivious<br>
>> to market changes. They saw Apple in 2007 introduce a new paradigm (no<br>
>> physical keyboard, interaction by touch only, short battery life) and saw<br>
>> all<br>
>> that as a fad that is going to fail. They missed the App Store concept.<br>
>> Then<br>
>> a year later Android was released by Google with similar concepts (App<br>
>> Store,<br>
>> many free apps, free SDK) and still talked themselves into : businesses<br>
>> will<br>
>> never stop using our BlackBerry, we are the most secure, ...etc.<br>
>><br>
>> At that time, they were so popular, kids would send their BB ID to message<br>
>> each other. Governments around the world (including the US Congress) were<br>
>> dependent on them.<br>
>><br>
>> Mike Lazarides was so focused on the hand sets, he bought an Apple iPhone<br>
>> when it first came out and dismantled: he always thought users would want<br>
>> physical keyboards and a battery life of several days. He missed the<br>
>> ecosystem<br>
>> part.<br>
>><br>
>> I had friends who jumped from whatever company they were in to RIM at the<br>
>> height of their dominance, only to be laid off or jump back after their<br>
>> demise.<br>
>><br>
>> Where are they today? Last I checked they had 0.4% market share, and that<br>
>> was a couple of years ago.<br>
>><br>
>> A reporter wrote an article, and later a book, on how this once dominant<br>
>> company declined in the span of less than 5 years.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/the-inside-story-of-why-blackberry-is-failing/article14563602/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theglobeandmail.<wbr>com/report-on-business/the-<wbr>inside-story-of-why-<wbr>blackberry-is-failing/<wbr>article14563602/</a><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Chamunks <<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com">chamunks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > I'm all for trashing local business if they're taking you for a ride. I<br>
>> > have fond memories of being a youngin working on PCB kits with my Dad in<br>
>> > grade 3/4[ish?] making little alarm things etc that we got from Orion.<br>
>> > Also<br>
>> > my first TV was purchased with a Toonie I had available in my change jar<br>
>> > down the street it was a black and white little tv on a swivel stand and<br>
>> > it<br>
>> > only had a dial for 13 channels. We bought a coaxial to RF adapter and<br>
>> > a TV<br>
>> > channel box thing so I could watch cable on it eventually. I think my<br>
>> > dad<br>
>> > thought it was absurd so he eventually bought me a 20"(ish) color tube<br>
>> > TV so<br>
>> > I could play my Nintendo in my room in color :P I bought the little<br>
>> > black n<br>
>> > white so I didn't have to share my consoles with my sisters, very<br>
>> > different<br>
>> > times.<br>
>><br>
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