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    <p>On a technical side, VPN better be something like existing
      standard and do not require active MitM on every SSL (cloud flare
      ?).</p>
    <p>On a human side, classical VPN requires trust to provider, unlike
      onion routing. If these guys, Private Internet Access, can be
      trusted, you may have a little faster traffic metadata hiding than
      Tor.<br>
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    <p>Private Internet Access will be at LibrePlanet this
      Saturday-Sunday, and I'll have a chance to talk with them. Send me
      questions, you want them to answer. Think of uncomfortable
      questions, that can be answered only face-to-face, without
      corporate veil.</p>
    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Mikalai<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-03-21 08:16 AM, CrankyOldBugger
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      <div dir="ltr">Well they use OpenVPN for much of the heavy
        lifting.  I imagine the software they're releasing as FOSS is
        more of the back end stuff, I guessing?
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        <div dir="ltr">On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 at 23:07 Chamunks <<a
            href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">chamunks@gmail.com</a>>
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          <div dir="ltr">Is there anything interesting about their VPN
            protocol that is any better then OpenVPN?</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 10:17 AM
              CrankyOldBugger <<a
                href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div dir="ltr">I know there are a few people in this group
                who use this company besides myself, so I thought this
                would be interesting news:
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                <div><a
href="https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/03/private-internet-access-goes-open-source"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/03/private-internet-access-goes-open-source</a><br>
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                <div>If you are looking for a VPN company, I do
                  recommend these guys...</div>
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