<div dir="ltr"><div>I started out with converting cheques or transfers received from US and international clients to CAD on the day I deposit it. That was volatile. The bank then said: since you are getting lots of these it is best to open a USD account, so you can do the conversion when you want, not on the day of. (Canadian clients were/are a rare thing for my business). So I did, and I don't transfer from USD to CAD unless I really need to, or when the rate is favourable. So there is less of a need for using other forex providers. <br><br></div><div>I explored two other forex providers. One was a small office in Toronto and they did say their rates are favourable. The other was in the media. I chickened in both cases: with fraud and con tricks rampant, I did not feel like transferring a few thousand dollars to someone who may take them and disappear.<br><br></div>Can Transferwise be used from your own US account to your own CAD account? Or only when a real transfer is happening?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Chamunks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chamunks@gmail.com" target="_blank">chamunks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">@Khalid <a href="https://transferwise.com" target="_blank">https://transferwise.com</a> for god's sake just use that. It's basically free and it skips losing a pile of money in hidden exchange rate bank fees.<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:57 PM Dave Cramer <<a href="mailto:davecramer@gmail.com" target="_blank">davecramer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_3043893614972016109m_-2388259630857129201gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Dave Cramer</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 February 2018 at 18:37, Kyle Spaans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:3lucid@gmail.com" target="_blank">3lucid@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><span><div dir="auto">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM Khalid Baheyeldin <<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Dave Cramer <span><<a href="mailto:davecramer@gmail.com" target="_blank">davecramer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_3043893614972016109m_-2388259630857129201m_-6293128505241914234m_-8831936409416862606m_-4785662348853788806gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><span>On 23 February 2018 at 11:34, Khalid Baheyeldin <span><<a href="mailto:kb@2bits.com" target="_blank">kb@2bits.com</a>></span> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>The majority of my clients are outside Canada, so I get wire transfers often.<br><br>Incoming wire fees will be around $37.50 or less. Some countries are higher. <br><br></div>Also, the USD is higher than the CAD for the time being. But if it shifts the other way (and it did for many years) you eat up the difference.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Banks offer different US chequing accounts. Some give you lower fees or flat per-transaction fee, others have preferred transfer rates. You can get your bank to open a US chequing account, and change the type when you want to transfer funds, then change it back. This works only if you have a buffer of CAD to weather the USD/CAD fluctuations. I strongly advise that though, since you can make up 5% more in currency difference if you wait for 8 or 10 months rather than do it monthly at whatever rate is in effect.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I use a currency exchange that will sell futures on the dollar. This means you can lock in a rate. There of course is a downside. If you sell 50k of futures you have to use it. FWIW, all the currency traders I talk to expect the USD to be stronger for the foreseeable future. If you are interested in the currency exchange contact me off list. Either way they have significantly better rates than the banks.</div><span class="m_3043893614972016109m_-2388259630857129201m_-6293128505241914234m_-8831936409416862606HOEnZb"></span></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra">When it comes to money, I am a conservative (not much in other spheres).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">That means I don't do options or futures or any of that. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">In good years when I had an excess in USD, I bought (through my bank) mutual funds that are in USD. If the market is down when you need the money, the difference in currency can make up for the bear market when you sell the mutual funds and sell the USD in CAD.</div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">Another thing you can do to save on conversion rates if you’re converting large amounts (around $10k or so at a time) is called Norbert’s Gambit. Basically you use a brokerage to buy a special fund that trades in both USD and CAD: buy with one and sell with the other. The spread between the two funds will be kept close to the live exchange rate by traders. You need to ask for a special account with the brokerage though.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://www.moneysense.ca/magazine-archive/norberts-gambit-a-better-way-to-buy-u-s-dollars/" target="_blank">http://www.moneysense.ca/<wbr>magazine-archive/norberts-<wbr>gambit-a-better-way-to-buy-u-<wbr>s-dollars/</a></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Interesting. </div><div><br></div><div>As a data point the last exchange I did was 10k CAD on Feb 1 it cost me 8195, the bank of Canada rate for that day was .8138 so it cost me $57 in exchange fees </div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"></div></div></blockquote></div>
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