<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Now you know...we all need to see that video!<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>At Real World Crypto 2017 I did a very, very adversarial, nailing
      to the cross argument to a Facebook guy. At the moment I thought
      that my stress level was obvious to people outside. Yet, when I
      watched the video later, looking from the side, it went fine, ...
      fine for a Brooklyn ascent, that is. It was a good nailing :)</p>
    <p>Speaking in public is just a cherry on David Rock's cake. Oh, yes
      ...<br>
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    <div class="m_5129639743044506125moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-02-21 12:11 PM, doug moen
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Mikalai said: <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">When
          I was infront of that mic, the first two seconds I felt a
          rush. Make it the rush. I consciously said to my brain "Thank
          you for mobilizing me. Yet, infront of me is not a tiger, and
          it isn't boxing. I need blood in language regions."</span>
        <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
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        <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">YES
            I have had this exact experience.</span></div>
        <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br>
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        <div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
            fixed me was presenting a tech paper in front of an
            auditorium of 200+ people at a Usenix convention. Yes, I was
            paralyzed and unable to speak for what seemed like 10
            seconds (probably shorter). Fortunately, I had memorized my
            talk word-for-word the previous day, practicing in my hotel
            room. Once I got my mouth moving, the speech came out fine.
            And since then, I have not had a problem with public
            speaking.</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2018 at 11:46, Mikalai
          Birukou via kwlug-disc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>></span>
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              <p>Let me make a few remarks here:</p>
              <p>1) @chamunks, you sounded well, with only light
                infliction in voice closer to the end. Even though you
                might've felt from the *inside* that your stressing out
                was obvious to everyone. Your speaking was great. And,
                yey to speaking out in public!<br>
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              <p>1.1) When I was infront of that mic, the first two
                seconds I felt a rush. Make it the rush. I consciously
                said to my brain "Thank you for mobilizing me. Yet,
                infront of me is not a tiger, and it isn't boxing. I
                need blood in language regions." This *reappraisal* of
                *internal state* switched off the distraction and let me
                talk. Yes, closer to the end of my remark I had a
                difficulty to find that English word. Of cause, some
                blood did drain from my bilingual neo-cortex. Duh! :)</p>
              <p>1.2) While reading (1.1), you may think WTF he is
                talking about. It is the same sort of reaction that a
                person, who doesn't know vim's internals or vim's
                approach, would say to the talk about "Ctrl- what? You
                do this in a mere text editor?". Yes, nobody gave us a
                manual for our brain. Its even worse than vim without
                -h. So, is there a manual for brain, or a good -h?</p>
              <p>1.3) David Rock's dense talk: <a class="m_5129639743044506125m_-4329407540068166692moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=XeJSXfXep4M</a></p>
              <p>1.4) If the beginning of the 20-th century was a
                revolutionary time in physics, beginning of this, 21-st,
                century brings the similar level of correctness and
                usefulness to psychology. David Rock articulates modern
                findings in an actionable form, tailored specifically to
                tech audience. Do apply, and do test what he preaches.
                Do cross-reference with other research, like you would
                do it in physics.</p>
              <p>1.5) I selflessly recommend David Rock and his book, to
                all tech folks. Cause from my millage it works. It
                describes brain correct enough for my brain to be able
                to adjust behavioral patterns.</p>
              <p>1.6) Note that when you adjust a line of code, program
                changes *immediately*. Does neural net algorithm output
                (behavior?) changes *immediately* on showing one
                learning input? No! By extension, don't expect it from
                your brain either! Repetition and noticing little signs
                of progress do work.</p>
              <p>1.7) Last fall, there was a security-talking event in
                Accelerator Center, organized by C3RM. The last talk was
                by ... , you guessed it, by a psychologist! After her
                talk, mentioning SCARF (watch David's talk) lightened
                her up, and on my "why schools don't teach a modicum of
                brain literacy", she said that at least a school with
                her child is starting to do something in this literacy
                area. There is hope. Yet, our generation should pick up
                brain literacy after classes, just like older
                generations had to pick up computer literacy after
                classes.</p>
              <p>2) It seems to me that this CIGI event, having been
                centered around the book, was too fear-spreading onto
                non-geeky public. It would be analogous to talking about
                car fatalities without mentioning that seat belts can be
                added to cars, airbags, and that may be cable brakes are
                not enough for 200mph monsters, and hydraulics better be
                used. Remarks from Magnetic Forensics guy, coupled with
                Trudeau socks, were not for honest tech discussion, but
                rather influenced by some internal context of what
                brought all speakers onto the podium last night. And the
                tone was 100% apologetic, pro-surveillance, both
                corporate and militarized.<br>
              </p>
              <p>2.1) May I humbly suggest buying David Rock's book? It
                will be more useful :) .<br>
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                  On 2018-02-21 12:36 AM, Chamunks wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">That was fun.  I don't think my
                      question was too adversarial.  I was stressing out
                      apparently quite a bit but I think it landed well.<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:47 AM
                        Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>
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                        off-topic but seems relevant to the group.<br>
                        Unfortunately I got the word out very late; the
                        event is Tuesday<br>
                        evening.<br>
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                        <a href="https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/look-whos-watching-surveillance-treachery-and-trust-online-registration-42212797614" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/lo<wbr>ok-whos-watching-surveillance-<wbr>treachery-and-trust-online-<wbr>registration-42212797614</a><br>
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                        It will be interesting to see what the
                        perspective of the Magnet<br>
                        Forensics representative will be.<br>
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                        - Paul<br>
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