<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Now you know...we all need to see that video!<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks,<br><br>Ron Singh<br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>At Real World Crypto 2017 I did a very, very adversarial, nailing
to the cross argument to a Facebook guy. At the moment I thought
that my stress level was obvious to people outside. Yet, when I
watched the video later, looking from the side, it went fine, ...
fine for a Brooklyn ascent, that is. It was a good nailing :)</p>
<p>Speaking in public is just a cherry on David Rock's cake. Oh, yes
...<br>
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<div class="m_5129639743044506125moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-02-21 12:11 PM, doug moen
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<div dir="ltr">Mikalai said: <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">When
I was infront of that mic, the first two seconds I felt a
rush. Make it the rush. I consciously said to my brain "Thank
you for mobilizing me. Yet, infront of me is not a tiger, and
it isn't boxing. I need blood in language regions."</span>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">YES
I have had this exact experience.</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What
fixed me was presenting a tech paper in front of an
auditorium of 200+ people at a Usenix convention. Yes, I was
paralyzed and unable to speak for what seemed like 10
seconds (probably shorter). Fortunately, I had memorized my
talk word-for-word the previous day, practicing in my hotel
room. Once I got my mouth moving, the speech came out fine.
And since then, I have not had a problem with public
speaking.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2018 at 11:46, Mikalai
Birukou via kwlug-disc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>></span>
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<p>Let me make a few remarks here:</p>
<p>1) @chamunks, you sounded well, with only light
infliction in voice closer to the end. Even though you
might've felt from the *inside* that your stressing out
was obvious to everyone. Your speaking was great. And,
yey to speaking out in public!<br>
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<p>1.1) When I was infront of that mic, the first two
seconds I felt a rush. Make it the rush. I consciously
said to my brain "Thank you for mobilizing me. Yet,
infront of me is not a tiger, and it isn't boxing. I
need blood in language regions." This *reappraisal* of
*internal state* switched off the distraction and let me
talk. Yes, closer to the end of my remark I had a
difficulty to find that English word. Of cause, some
blood did drain from my bilingual neo-cortex. Duh! :)</p>
<p>1.2) While reading (1.1), you may think WTF he is
talking about. It is the same sort of reaction that a
person, who doesn't know vim's internals or vim's
approach, would say to the talk about "Ctrl- what? You
do this in a mere text editor?". Yes, nobody gave us a
manual for our brain. Its even worse than vim without
-h. So, is there a manual for brain, or a good -h?</p>
<p>1.3) David Rock's dense talk: <a class="m_5129639743044506125m_-4329407540068166692moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=XeJSXfXep4M</a></p>
<p>1.4) If the beginning of the 20-th century was a
revolutionary time in physics, beginning of this, 21-st,
century brings the similar level of correctness and
usefulness to psychology. David Rock articulates modern
findings in an actionable form, tailored specifically to
tech audience. Do apply, and do test what he preaches.
Do cross-reference with other research, like you would
do it in physics.</p>
<p>1.5) I selflessly recommend David Rock and his book, to
all tech folks. Cause from my millage it works. It
describes brain correct enough for my brain to be able
to adjust behavioral patterns.</p>
<p>1.6) Note that when you adjust a line of code, program
changes *immediately*. Does neural net algorithm output
(behavior?) changes *immediately* on showing one
learning input? No! By extension, don't expect it from
your brain either! Repetition and noticing little signs
of progress do work.</p>
<p>1.7) Last fall, there was a security-talking event in
Accelerator Center, organized by C3RM. The last talk was
by ... , you guessed it, by a psychologist! After her
talk, mentioning SCARF (watch David's talk) lightened
her up, and on my "why schools don't teach a modicum of
brain literacy", she said that at least a school with
her child is starting to do something in this literacy
area. There is hope. Yet, our generation should pick up
brain literacy after classes, just like older
generations had to pick up computer literacy after
classes.</p>
<p>2) It seems to me that this CIGI event, having been
centered around the book, was too fear-spreading onto
non-geeky public. It would be analogous to talking about
car fatalities without mentioning that seat belts can be
added to cars, airbags, and that may be cable brakes are
not enough for 200mph monsters, and hydraulics better be
used. Remarks from Magnetic Forensics guy, coupled with
Trudeau socks, were not for honest tech discussion, but
rather influenced by some internal context of what
brought all speakers onto the podium last night. And the
tone was 100% apologetic, pro-surveillance, both
corporate and militarized.<br>
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<p>2.1) May I humbly suggest buying David Rock's book? It
will be more useful :) .<br>
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On 2018-02-21 12:36 AM, Chamunks wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That was fun. I don't think my
question was too adversarial. I was stressing out
apparently quite a bit but I think it landed well.<br>
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Paul Nijjar via kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>>
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off-topic but seems relevant to the group.<br>
Unfortunately I got the word out very late; the
event is Tuesday<br>
evening.<br>
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<a href="https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/look-whos-watching-surveillance-treachery-and-trust-online-registration-42212797614" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/lo<wbr>ok-whos-watching-surveillance-<wbr>treachery-and-trust-online-<wbr>registration-42212797614</a><br>
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It will be interesting to see what the
perspective of the Magnet<br>
Forensics representative will be.<br>
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- Paul<br>
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