<div dir="ltr">Well, ironic that this conversation came up today, given the news of this morning, but my Dad was a broadcaster all of his life, so he had a natural talent for speaking to crowds. He once said to me that if you want to become a good public speaker, watch some tapes of Billy Graham; the man had a very strong presence in front of any crowd. Learn to handle yourself in front of crowds like Rev. Graham and you will be a much better speaker.<div><br></div><div>Obviously we deal with different topics and content, of course, but public speaking is very much about how you present yourself to your audience.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 at 12:13 doug moen <<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org">doug@moens.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Mikalai said: <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">When I was infront of that mic, the first two seconds I felt a rush. Make it the rush. I consciously said to my brain "Thank you for mobilizing me. Yet, infront of me is not a tiger, and it isn't boxing. I need blood in language regions."</span><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">YES I have had this exact experience.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">What fixed me was presenting a tech paper in front of an auditorium of 200+ people at a Usenix convention. Yes, I was paralyzed and unable to speak for what seemed like 10 seconds (probably shorter). Fortunately, I had memorized my talk word-for-word the previous day, practicing in my hotel room. Once I got my mouth moving, the speech came out fine. And since then, I have not had a problem with public speaking.</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2018 at 11:46, Mikalai Birukou via kwlug-disc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Let me make a few remarks here:</p>
<p>1) @chamunks, you sounded well, with only light infliction in
voice closer to the end. Even though you might've felt from the
*inside* that your stressing out was obvious to everyone. Your
speaking was great. And, yey to speaking out in public!<br>
</p>
<p>1.1) When I was infront of that mic, the first two seconds I felt
a rush. Make it the rush. I consciously said to my brain "Thank
you for mobilizing me. Yet, infront of me is not a tiger, and it
isn't boxing. I need blood in language regions." This
*reappraisal* of *internal state* switched off the distraction and
let me talk. Yes, closer to the end of my remark I had a
difficulty to find that English word. Of cause, some blood did
drain from my bilingual neo-cortex. Duh! :)</p>
<p>1.2) While reading (1.1), you may think WTF he is talking about.
It is the same sort of reaction that a person, who doesn't know
vim's internals or vim's approach, would say to the talk about
"Ctrl- what? You do this in a mere text editor?". Yes, nobody gave
us a manual for our brain. Its even worse than vim without -h. So,
is there a manual for brain, or a good -h?</p>
<p>1.3) David Rock's dense talk:
<a class="m_547482343075494418m_-4329407540068166692moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJSXfXep4M</a></p>
<p>1.4) If the beginning of the 20-th century was a revolutionary
time in physics, beginning of this, 21-st, century brings the
similar level of correctness and usefulness to psychology. David
Rock articulates modern findings in an actionable form, tailored
specifically to tech audience. Do apply, and do test what he
preaches. Do cross-reference with other research, like you would
do it in physics.</p>
<p>1.5) I selflessly recommend David Rock and his book, to all tech
folks. Cause from my millage it works. It describes brain correct
enough for my brain to be able to adjust behavioral patterns.</p>
<p>1.6) Note that when you adjust a line of code, program changes
*immediately*. Does neural net algorithm output (behavior?)
changes *immediately* on showing one learning input? No! By
extension, don't expect it from your brain either! Repetition and
noticing little signs of progress do work.</p>
<p>1.7) Last fall, there was a security-talking event in Accelerator
Center, organized by C3RM. The last talk was by ... , you guessed
it, by a psychologist! After her talk, mentioning SCARF (watch
David's talk) lightened her up, and on my "why schools don't teach
a modicum of brain literacy", she said that at least a school with
her child is starting to do something in this literacy area. There
is hope. Yet, our generation should pick up brain literacy after
classes, just like older generations had to pick up computer
literacy after classes.</p>
<p>2) It seems to me that this CIGI event, having been centered
around the book, was too fear-spreading onto non-geeky public. It
would be analogous to talking about car fatalities without
mentioning that seat belts can be added to cars, airbags, and that
may be cable brakes are not enough for 200mph monsters, and
hydraulics better be used. Remarks from Magnetic Forensics guy,
coupled with Trudeau socks, were not for honest tech discussion,
but rather influenced by some internal context of what brought all
speakers onto the podium last night. And the tone was 100%
apologetic, pro-surveillance, both corporate and militarized.<br>
</p>
<p>2.1) May I humbly suggest buying David Rock's book? It will be
more useful :) .<br>
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On 2018-02-21 12:36 AM, Chamunks wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That was fun. I don't think my question was too
adversarial. I was stressing out apparently quite a bit but I
think it landed well.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:47 AM Paul Nijjar via
kwlug-disc <<a href="mailto:kwlug-disc@kwlug.org" target="_blank">kwlug-disc@kwlug.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This is
moderately off-topic but seems relevant to the group.<br>
Unfortunately I got the word out very late; the event is
Tuesday<br>
evening.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/look-whos-watching-surveillance-treachery-and-trust-online-registration-42212797614" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/look-whos-watching-surveillance-treachery-and-trust-online-registration-42212797614</a><br>
<br>
It will be interesting to see what the perspective of the
Magnet<br>
Forensics representative will be.<br>
<br>
- Paul<br>
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