<div dir="ltr">To be honest, 17.10 really disappointed me. It failed to install several times until I gave up on it. It disappointed me so much, in fact, that I now have more Fedora systems in the house than I do Ubuntu, and my main desktop has stayed at Ubuntu 17.04 and is now out of support. (and for the record, the Fedora install is way better than Ubuntu's, especially if you want granular control over LVM)<div><br></div><div>I have nothing against GNOME, as evidenced by the Fedora boxes around the place, so Ubuntu's leaving Unity didn't bother me too much. It was a bit of an inconvenience but I'll get over it. I don't have any grudges against any of the other DE's, such as KDE, Mate, etc., but I do like GNOME. I'm also trying to avoid any distros that try to look like Microsoft Windows (like Linux Mint, although I can't fault it for its popularity).</div><div><br></div><div>But where Wayland loses me is the lack of native VNC support. This applies to Fedora as well as Ubuntu. So any machine that I have that's Wayland is currently SSH only, whereas the holdout Ubuntu (Xorg) 17.04 can handle VNC tunnelled through SSH. And several times a day I need to hit the GUI from work, so I need the VNC/SSH. I _could_ go third party with TeamViewer or something like that on my Wayland boxes, but in my mind that takes away from the "purity" of the experience. Not sure how to better explain that, sorry....</div><div><br></div><div>The impression I get from this article is that Wayland is only back-burnered for now. It will come to Ubuntu eventually, unless they come up with a better idea. But I'm not going to complain that I can now install an LTS (18.04) that still allows VNC over SSH...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 January 2018 at 09:22, doug moen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug@moens.org" target="_blank">doug@moens.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This makes me very happy.<br><br>I'm running 16.04 right now. 17.10 is the first release that defaults to Wayland, and there are, not surprisingly, problems with it. So glad I'm not running it. So if 18.04 were to default to Wayland, then that would be a reason for me to delay upgrading.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 January 2018 at 08:24, CrankyOldBugger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">OK, I'm not sure what my opinion is on this just yet.. need time to process!<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/xorg-will-default-display-server-ubuntu-18-04-lts" target="_blank">http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/201<wbr>8/01/xorg-will-default-display<wbr>-server-ubuntu-18-04-lts</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
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